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XP Pro Desktop Missing All Icons-Can't get anything to run? What to do?

Asked by: dudleydocker

I have an XP Pro install that was working fine until today....when I boot it it goes through the normal startup process including logon screen, starts loading user preferences, and then....NO ICONS!  The wall paper is there, I can even get task manager to run, but that's all.  I can boot into 'last good configuration' and safe mode, but I get the same results...no icons and I can't launch any programs.  How can I get to system restore or something else where I can fix this?  It seems like the OS is loading, but....what now?

Thanks.

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by: kabaamPosted on 2004-02-05 at 19:00:54ID: 10286892

Try this.  Boot into windows, task manager, new process
explorer.ex
it is in the windows folder.
lmk
CHAD

 

by: qfrenPosted on 2004-02-05 at 19:09:13ID: 10286931

hi:

-Perform a reinstallation of Windows XP, sometimes called a <Repair> installation
========================================================

1. Configure your computer to start from the CD-ROM drive. For more information about how to do this, refer to your computer's documentation or contact your computer manufacturer. Then insert your Windows XP Setup CD, and restart your computer.

2. When the Press any key to boot from CD message is displayed on your screen, press a key to start your computer from the Windows XP CD.

3. Press ENTER when you see the message To setup Windows XP now, and then press ENTER displayed on the Welcome to Setup screen.

4. Do not choose the option to press R to use the Recovery Console.

5. In the Windows XP Licensing Agreement, press F8 to agree to the license agreement.

6. Make sure that your current installation of Windows XP is selected in the box, and then press R to repair Windows XP.

7. Follow the instructions on the screen to complete Setup.

or
HOW TO: Restore the Operating System to a Previous State in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;306084

HOW TO: Start the System Restore Tool from a Command Prompt in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;304449

How to Recover from a Corrupted Registry That Prevents Windows XP from Starting
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;307545  


 

by: sramesh2kPosted on 2004-02-05 at 19:40:28ID: 10287130

Login as Administrator in safe mode and create new user profile. You can copy your personal data from old profile later.

 

by: sramesh2kPosted on 2004-02-05 at 19:40:40ID: 10287134

How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811151

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-02-05 at 20:16:29ID: 10287350

Have you tried System Restore yet?  Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools...

run System Restore and pick a date that it everything was working...

FE

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-02-05 at 20:22:15ID: 10287387

hmm.. Guess since you cannot get your desktop up, you certainly cannot do a Restore , eh?  DUH..!!!

I think you may have a corrupted registry.  You can solve this by using the Recovery Console.  boot to the XP cd, and press 'r' to get to the Recovery Console.  Choose the OS (usually #1), enter your admin password, and follow the directions here to the letter....

How to Recover from a Corrupted Registry that Prevents Windows XP from Starting

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;307545&

OR:

Boot to the Recovery Console.
At the Recovery Console command prompt, type the following lines, pressing ENTER after you type each line:
md tmp_r
copy c:\windows\system32\config\system c:\windows\tmp_r\system.bak
copy c:\windows\system32\config\software c:\windows\tmp_r\software.bak
copy c:\windows\system32\config\sam c:\windows\tmp_r\sam.bak
copy c:\windows\system32\config\security c:\windows\tmp_r\security.bak
copy c:\windows\system32\config\default c:\windows\tmp_r\default.bak

delete c:\windows\system32\config\system
delete c:\windows\system32\config\software
delete c:\windows\system32\config\sam
delete c:\windows\system32\config\security
delete c:\windows\system32\config\default

copy c:\windows\repair\system c:\windows\system32\config\system
copy c:\windows\repair\software c:\windows\system32\config\software
copy c:\windows\repair\sam c:\windows\system32\config\sam
copy c:\windows\repair\security c:\windows\system32\config\security
copy c:\windows\repair\default c:\windows\system32\config\default

Then after that, you can reboot to XP in normal mode.

 

by: timothyfryerPosted on 2004-02-05 at 22:06:48ID: 10287893

This probably isn't it but you might try right clicking on any blank area of the desktop and in the submenu of the "Arrange Icons By" selection, make sure that the "Show Desktop Icons" has a checkmark beside it.  If it isn't checked, your desktop icons won't be visible.

 

by: kurtlinuxPosted on 2004-02-05 at 23:38:59ID: 10288146

dudleydocker,

You forgot to mention if the START MENU is present.  If so, then the icons must have been disabled (see timothyfryer's post above).

If the Start Menu is present, click START then RUN.  Type SFC /scannow then press Enter key.  This will check if your system files are still intact and try to restore them if they are damaged.

--kurt

 

by: dudleydockerPosted on 2004-02-06 at 06:59:10ID: 10290240

hello.  I forgot to mention that there is NO start menu.  I appreciate all of the ideas!  Hopefully I can get this working again!  I will keep you posted.

Thanks!

 

by: kabaamPosted on 2004-02-06 at 07:15:12ID: 10290367

It sounds as if the expolorer file in windows is corrupt or not starting properly.  try starting from the task manager.  you may have to restore it

 

by: timothyfryerPosted on 2004-02-06 at 07:18:56ID: 10290389


Gfren mentioned this above and it will probably work.
You can usually repair XP without deleting the data on your hard disk by using the repair feature on the installation cd.  That might be the quickest way to restore your OS.  The repair reinstalls the OS files without deleting the other data.



Insert your Windows XP installation cd into your cdrom, then:
1.  Turn off computer.
2.  Turn on computer and immediately begin tapping the key that brings up BIOS (Setup); usually the 'delete' key but varies by manufacturer.
3.  Configure BIOS to boot from your cd drive.
4.  Save and exit BIOS, then let it boot from, or prompt you to boot from cdrom.
5.  Follow the menu.  Be careful, wording in the menu is somewhat ambiguous and misleading. You don't want to do a new install because 'THAT WILL DELETE YOUR DATA FILES'.  You want to do a repair of the existing OS.
6.  I'm reasonably confident that this will solve the blank screen problem.

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-02-06 at 07:24:00ID: 10290435

That is a good idea...  if you can get the TM open (Ctrl - Alt - Del) then go to the App tab.  > New Task > and type explorer.exe...   see if it opens the Explorer Window...

If this does not work...  try replacing the Registry as I mentioned in the steps above...

FE

 

by: dudleydockerPosted on 2004-02-06 at 08:40:24ID: 10291117

Regarding Task Manager, I know I was able to launch it and get to "new task" and browse, even to the "programs" menu..I navigated to "system restore" but when I clicked on it I got a message that said the program wasn't there (or some such cryptic mssg)...sorry I don't have the specifics.  So my guess is that when I type "explorer.exe" it won't work?

Sorry I 'm not near the machine in question.

Thanks.

 

by: timothyfryerPosted on 2004-02-06 at 08:45:35ID: 10291177

If you were able to browse, then explorer was already running.  Have you done anything with transparent windows lately.  Maybe a program disappeared your stuff.  Have you tried the windows key to bring up the start menu.

 

by: dudleydockerPosted on 2004-02-06 at 08:54:51ID: 10291254

Quote: "If you were able to browse, then explorer was already running.  Have you done anything with transparent windows lately.  Maybe a program disappeared your stuff.  Have you tried the windows key to bring up the start menu."

This particular install has been problematic for a while.  Instances where the desktop would disappear BRIEFLY then come back and all the icons would "rebuild"?  What do you mean by using the windows key to bring up the start menu?

 

by: timothyfryerPosted on 2004-02-06 at 09:54:47ID: 10291793

Most keyboards have a windows key, usually in lower left corner area, with an image of the windows logo on it.  Pressing this key causes the start menu to appear.  The BRIEF disappearance you describe sounds very similar to an icon issue with XP.  Basically, the thumbnail view is a gigantic resource hog that slows down your system drastically.  If explorer decides it has to reload all the icons, it can virtually shut your system down for periods in excess of a minute or more, depending on how many folders have thumbnails and what quality they are set for.  TweakUI for XP (free download from microsoft) allows you to set the quality level of your thumbnails, the lower the quality, the faster they render.  The desktop will often disappear for long periods of time when the system is rebuilding icons.  Other types of icons can take quite along time as well if your running maximum graphics quality settings.  Icons and/or thumbnails are images and

images gobble resources.  Thumbnail view is the slowest, list or icon view is probably the fastest.  If, for instance, you have "do not cache thumbnails" box checked in folder options, then the comp has to build them all when you logon, which can take forever and possibly (not sure) cause your desktop to not appear immediately.

For the BRIEF problem you described, I would:

Go into folder options in control panel and:

under the general tab:
Make sure "use windows classic folders" is checked

under the view tab:
Make sure "do not cache thumbnails" box is UNCHECKED
Make sure "remember each folder's view settings" box is CHECKED
Close folder options.

Then open any regular folder, not a special or system folder and change the view to list or icon view.
Reopen folder options from tools menu in that folder, goto view tab and click the "apply to all folders" button.  This will set all except some special folders to the list or icon view that you selected for the folder your in and "theoretically stop thumbnails in the non special folders.  I say this because it seems microsoft loved their thumbnails so much that every time you sneeze, the computer uses it as an excuse to put a folder in thumbnail view. standard microsoft "computer users are stupid marketing scheme" in my opinion.  You might want to restart now to make sure the view settings reload consistent with your changes.

Then,

Download TweakUI for XP from Microsoft.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp

Set thumbnail quality to 50 and size to 50, good compromise setting
This will cause the thumbnails that are still present in the special folders to render faster.  There is a way to get rid of these but its a harsher fix whereas everything I've mentioned here is easily reversed.

Again, this may help your BRIEF disappearance problem.

Lemme know. Tim.





 

by: dudleydockerPosted on 2004-02-06 at 10:17:54ID: 10292006

Yep, I have the "windows" logo key.....did not bring up the menu like clicking "start".  The icon rendering description you gave sounds familiar.  Previous to this problem, I've had it sit on a blank screen (wallpaper only) for TEN MINUTES and then the desktop came back.  But now I left it for three hours and nothing.  Could stipp bring up taks manager though.

So short of trying anything yet, my guess is that deleting and reloading the registry will work?

Thanks.

 

by: timothyfryerPosted on 2004-02-06 at 10:43:18ID: 10292240

Haven't done registry restore before in XP but I would definitely get important stuff off hard drive if possible before trying.  XP registry restoration significantly more complex than 98 from what I've heard.  Good luck. Tim.
One other thing though. Maybe your icon cache is corrupt.
This is easier than restoring registry.
Goto folder options and check "show hidden files and folders" box
Goto Documents and Settings\"your profile"\Local Settings\Application Data
Find the hidden file IconCache.db and delete it.
Restart.
File will regenerate automatically but it will be a slow logon while rebuilding.
Doing the other stuff first in the previous post will ensure that the rebuilt cache contains a fast, stable icon profile.

Which also brings another question to mind, is the desktop gone when logged in under another user, if not, then restoring your profile in the registry might be easier than a recovery console restoration.  The registry contains a copy of the factory version of the registry settings that it uses to generate the registry settings for a new user.  You can import those into your profile or just create a new user with a temporary name, move all your junk over, kill your old bad desktop self, then change the new user temporary name to your original name.  

 

by: dudleydockerPosted on 2004-02-06 at 11:02:13ID: 10292427

I am unable to log in as any user.  When the logon box comes up, it contains my name.  This particular install has "blank" the password, so I just click enter.  The only item that appears if I click "options" is shutdown..

Now that I'm thinking about this maybe I can log on as another user?  Hmmmm.....

 

by: timothyfryerPosted on 2004-02-06 at 11:21:49ID: 10292600

That's what I mean, log on as another user.  Goto control panel, user accounts to see who all is registered.  The logon screen ordinarily places your name in the window but you can delete that name and type in the user name that you want to use to log on.  As long as you have a password for it.  XP Pro creates two profiles on installation, your personal profile and an administrator.  You can log on through the administrator account.  Go into the administrator account in user accounts in control panel to setup password info if you haven't already.  You should be able to access the administrator account in user accounts because, if i remember correctly, the default user profile has some administrator privileges enabled.  Worth a try.

 

by: timothyfryerPosted on 2004-02-06 at 11:27:19ID: 10292664

You can also just create a new user and then log in under it.

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-02-06 at 12:17:47ID: 10293203

And if that does not work...  

The registry restore that I outlined above is very easy to do...  It may look complicated, but if you follow my directions, it does work.  I have yet to have it not....  You can even copy the contents and create a batch file to run from the Recovery Console.  (But this is certainly not necessary...)

FE

 

by: timothyfryerPosted on 2004-02-06 at 13:28:38ID: 10294038

Thanks Fatal, I still haven't gotten over a bad BIOS flashing experience I had once.  I'm kinda gun shy.  Ha. Ha.

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-02-06 at 14:07:59ID: 10294425

Don't blame you..!!  I would try the other suggestions first though...  You never know what might happen when you dig into the registry...  I have seen passwords lost this way, so use this as a last resort..

 

by: kurtlinuxPosted on 2004-02-06 at 22:35:01ID: 10297012

If the other steps don't work out, do not rule out the possibility of a hardware problem.  I have seen this sort of problem in one of my company's computers (no START menu, no icons, etc.).  It turned out this machine had a bad memory chip.  No matter what I do, it always messed itself up.  After replacing the bad memory chip, the machine worked like a charm.

Please try FE's and tim's suggestions first.  If none of the above work, check out your hardware.  If you can get to a command prompt, you should also try "SFC /scannow" just to make sure your system files are OK.

--kurt

 

by: timothyfryerPosted on 2004-02-11 at 04:24:37ID: 10331469

Any luck, dudleydocker?

 

by: dudleydockerPosted on 2004-02-17 at 10:57:45ID: 10385077

Hello and sorry for dropping off the face of the planet!  I finally did the registry recovery that FE outlined and it worked like a charm.  I also gave points to timothyfryer for the excellent description of adjusting/configuring the desktop icons.  Thank you both.  I really appreciate it.

 

by: timothyfryerPosted on 2004-02-17 at 11:05:24ID: 10385145

Thanks for the points, dudleydocker, Good Luck. Tim.

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-02-17 at 11:44:17ID: 10385462

Glad you got it back dudley..!!

And thanks..

FE

 

by: weylmanPosted on 2004-10-25 at 16:55:42ID: 12406245

I had a similar problem - no icons, no start menu, and explorer would not run from the task menu.

I fixed it by going back to a restore point that was three weeks old.

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