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Problem Getting the OS Version in Compatibility Mode

Asked by: cunningham

I have an application that runs on Windows 98. To get it to run under Windows XP, I use the Windows 98 compatibility mode. I need to be able to find out whether the operating system I'm running under is really XP or 98. If I'm running the application on Windows XP and use the GetVersion or GetVersionEx call, it tells me I'm always running under Windows 98 (because of the Win 98 compatibility mode). Is there a way to find out the "real" operating system I'm running under while still running in Win 98 compatibility mode??

Thanks in advance for any information you can shed on this.

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2004-07-02 at 07:42:38ID21046051
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Answers

 

by: spywherePosted on 2004-07-02 at 07:54:55ID: 11457231

Compatability Mode just means that the Windows XP Operating System has created an environment withing it's shell to allow 16bit application to run. I don't think you are actually running a Windows 98 OS.

 

by: cunninghamPosted on 2004-07-02 at 08:01:13ID: 11457286

You are correct in that I am not actually running under a Windows 98 OS. I am trying to find out how to tell which OS I am actually running under (without using the GetVersion and GetVersionEx routines).

 

by: spywherePosted on 2004-07-02 at 08:11:26ID: 11457362

Oh. I understand....hold on I'm installing an old Windows 95 application now, so I can figure this out for you....

:)

 

by: spywherePosted on 2004-07-02 at 08:35:45ID: 11457598

when a change is made to the dialog where you select the compatability mode a registry key is edited. That key is:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers

It will create a NAME with the address of where the file is stored (i.e. c:\program files\Windows98Program
It will create a data value out beside that name with the version being used (i.e. WIN95, WIN98, etc.etc.)

So the only questionis how to avoid using the GetVersion routine. I guess you are using a program like Visual Basic?

You could create a batch file with the following command line in it:

REG QUERY "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppConpatFlags\Layers" /s

or

REG QUERY "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers" /v "c:\program files\Windows98Program\Filename.exe"

 

by: spywherePosted on 2004-07-02 at 08:37:42ID: 11457610

I said (REG QUERY "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppConpatFlags\Layers" /s)  I meant to say:

REG QUERY "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers" /s


spy....

 

by: cunninghamPosted on 2004-07-02 at 10:18:24ID: 11458463

I'm sorry - I must not be explaining myself very well. When the application is running on XP, everything I do indicates that the operating system is 98 (because of the Windows 98 compatibility mode). This includes the calls to GetVersion and even the registry entry that you found. I want to find out what the "real" operating system is independent of the compatibility mode. If I'm running on XP, I want something that tells me "You're on XP". If I'm running on 98, I want something that tells me "You're on 98".

Thanks for looking into this......

 

by: priichPosted on 2004-07-02 at 10:43:08ID: 11458650

Have you tried accessing WMI and querying what OperatingSystem is running ?
example, commandline:   wmic OS get Name

Can also be aquired without using wmic but rather your custom program interfacing WMI.
example in vbscript (not my tool of choice but ok for this example) :

'---snip begin vbscript, save as .VBS, execute with scripting host like cscript.exe----
Set oWMI = GetObject("winmgmts:")
For Each oOs in oWMI.InstancesOf("Win32_OperatingSystem")
   wscript.echo "name: " & oOs.Name
Next
'---- snip end vbscript---

 

by: cunninghamPosted on 2004-07-02 at 12:03:57ID: 11459219

I am trying to do this with an MFC VC++ executable. I have never done WMI in MFC although I think you can with some WMI COM object?? Sometimes COM objects are a pain in the butt in VC++. I will try this if you really think that it would work?? I was really looking for something simple, such as some Win32 routine that returns some value that is unique in XP, or some file or registry entry that is only available on an XP system.

Thanks for the suggestion and let me know what you think.

 

by: priichPosted on 2004-07-04 at 15:18:19ID: 11469731

Well i guess it depends on what your requirements for deployment are.

The quick 'n dirty would be to look for a file that exists in xp but not in win98.
This methods successrate depends on how customized the enduser's system is.

Comparing fileversions of apps won't work because version.dll will translate versioninfo.

You could check if your applications process uses one or more of  shimeng.dll, aclayers.dll or acgenral.dll, acspecfc.dll,aclua.dll,AcXtrnal.dll or AcRes.dll  while running.
If it does, it's using a shim (id est, it's in compatibility mode.)





Regarding WMI in (visual) c++ , this link has working source:
http://www.codeproject.com/system/Using_WMI_in_Visual_C__.asp



In "Using WMIDlg.cpp" file in example source from codeproject, :
Replace                 BSTR strQuery = (L"Select * from win32_Processor");
with                         BSTR strQuery = (L"Select * from Win32_OperatingSystem");
and replace           BSTR strClassProp = SysAllocString(L"LoadPercentage");
with                        BSTR strClassProp = SysAllocString(L"Name");

and you should have proof of concept and decent example. (also, you might have to link in wbemuuid.lib as an additional dependencie.)



More of WMI on MSDN (example and step by step guide)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wmisdk/wmi/example_creating_a_wmi_application.asp
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wmisdk/wmi/creating_a_wmi_application_using_c_.asp


Good luck!
//priich

 

by: cunninghamPosted on 2004-07-06 at 08:27:27ID: 11482099

I see that WMI requires the .NET framework for all of the older operating systems and I'm not sure that is something that we want to impose on our users since many still run Windows 98. Also, I must not have the latest SDK and couldn't compile the example from Code Project.

The WMI solution is still a good one, though, so I will give you the points unless I hear of a non-WMI solution that works.

Thanks priich

 

by: priichPosted on 2004-07-06 at 18:29:29ID: 11487580

Ohh i forgot about that. WMI is not standard in windows 98, it doesn't really require the .NET framework to my knowledge but you need to install Windows Managment Instrumentation core on older operating systems.
(can be found at: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=afe41f46-e213-4cbf-9c5b-fbf236e0e875&DisplayLang=en
)

I agree, the solution seems less elegant when it may require additional downloads.

Howabout this one then ?

//----snip example code below----
//do not forget to #include <tlhelp32.h>
HANDLE hModuleSnap = NULL;
hModuleSnap = CreateToolhelp32Snapshot( TH32CS_SNAPMODULE, 0 );
MODULEENTRY32* moduleInfo = new MODULEENTRY32;

moduleInfo->dwSize = sizeof (MODULEENTRY32);
while (Module32Next(hModuleSnap, moduleInfo) != FALSE)
{
      if ((_stricmp(moduleInfo->szModule,"acgenral.dll"))==0)
      {
            cout<<endl<<"Since "<<moduleInfo->szModule<< " is loaded, this app is in compat mode.";
            //set variable here
      }
}

CloseHandle(hModuleSnap);
delete moduleInfo;
//----snip end example code----


It iterates through the modules (dlls) loaded by the owning process and if it finds that the acgenral shim is loaded then, well set your marker.

This should work on any 32-bit windows except windows NT4 on which it will crash and burn since toolhelp32 API is not available on windows nt4.

 

by: cunninghamPosted on 2004-07-07 at 09:48:58ID: 11493885

Thanks priich! Although your solution doesn't tell me directly which OS is being run, it does tell me indirectly (through the compatibility mode DLL). That's good enough for my application. Thanks for finding a solution when the others didn't work.

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