Question

Disable Simple File Sharing in XP Home when no Use Simple File Sharing checkbox exists

Asked by: gateguard

XP Home
Windows Explorer
Folder Options
View
NO Use Simple File Sharing checkbox.

Even booting into Safe Mode, the Use Simple File Sharing checkbox is not there.

How can I disable Simple File Sharing (so that I can see the security tab in file/folder properties) if there is no Use Simple File Sharing checkbox in Folder Options?

Is there a registry value I can change or add?

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2004-07-03 at 05:14:27ID21046791
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by: gemartiPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:21:58ID: 11462799


Have you seen these instructions?

Description of File Sharing and Permissions in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040

SUMMARY
Windows XP enables you to share files and documents with other users on your computer and other users on a network. Windows XP introduces a new user interface (UI) in the Windows XP Home Editions and Windows XP Professional that is known as Simple File Sharing, and includes a new Shared Documents feature.

This article describes the new interfaces that are introduced in Windows XP and how to enable, disable, configure, and troubleshoot file sharing in Windows XP.

Note Windows XP Home Edition-based computers always have Simple File Sharing enabled.

The information in this article applies to:
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Microsoft Windows XP Professional

 

by: gemartiPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:27:07ID: 11462808

Now there is one little catch to this. If your system has a FAT32 partition then you'll never see the Security TAB. Your system must have a NTFS partition.

 

by: gateguardPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:28:30ID: 11462811

"Windows XP Home Edition-based computers always have Simple File Sharing enabled."

So that's the answer?  It can't be done?  There's no way to FORCE it on?  Of course the answer to this question isn't going to come from Microsoft.  They want us to buy XP Pro.

 

by: gateguardPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:30:58ID: 11462818

To emphasize again:

I do not have the check-box available.  That line:

Use Simple File Sharing

does not appear anywhere in the list of Advanced Folder Options.

Is this unique to my version of XP Home (on an EMachine), or is that just the way it is with XP Home?

PS:  My drive is formatted NTFS.

 

by: gemartiPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:33:17ID: 11462823

You can determine your file system format with the FSUTIL command line tool.

START | RUN | CMD
Enter:


c:\>fsutil fsinfo statistics g:
File System Type :     NTFS
       ------
You'll get more information, but the first line is what your interested in.


 

by: gemartiPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:36:38ID: 11462830

If it is FAT32 then use the CONVERT tool

How to: Use CONVERT to convert FAT volumes to NTFS.
Solution:

Type the following at the command prompt, and then press ENTER:
CONVERT < x >:\ /FS:NTFS /<options>

START | RUN | CMD
Enter

This is an EXAMPLE: CONVERT C: /FS:NTFS /V /NAMETABLE: CONVERT.LOG


Things to keep in mind:

The drive currently in use cannot be converted. If CONVERT cannot lock the specified drive, you can convert the drive to NTFS the next time the computer reboots.

The following optional parameters can be used with the CONVERT command:
V specifies verbose mode, which displays all messages during conversion.
/NAMETABLE: <file name> creates a name-translation table file in the root directory of the converted volume, using the file name specified by <file name>.

 

by: gateguardPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:36:51ID: 11462832

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>fsutil fsinfo statistics c:
File System Type :     NTFS

UserFileReads :        10247
UserFileReadBytes :    196127232
UserDiskReads :        10032
UserFileWrites :       1490
UserFileWriteBytes :   17498112
UserDiskWrites :       1446
MetaDataReads :        1589
MetaDataReadBytes :    23937024
MetaDataDiskReads :    2120
MetaDataWrites :       1182
MetaDataWriteBytes :   6205440
MetaDataDiskWrites :   1982

MftReads :             634
MftReadBytes :         20025344
MftWrites :            891
MftWriteBytes :        4816896
Mft2Writes :           45
Mft2WriteBytes :       184320
RootIndexReads :       0
RootIndexReadBytes :   0
RootIndexWrites :      0
RootIndexWriteBytes :  0
BitmapReads :          895
BitmapReadBytes :      3665920
BitmapWrites :         197
BitmapWriteBytes :     987136
MftBitmapReads :       2
MftBitmapReadBytes :   8192
MftBitmapWrites :      49
MftBitmapWriteBytes :  217088
UserIndexReads :       530
UserIndexReadBytes :   2170880
UserIndexWrites :      701
UserIndexWriteBytes :  3440640
LogFileReads :         6
LogFileReadBytes :     24576
LogFileWrites :        1424
LogFileWriteBytes :    9871360

 

by: gemartiPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:40:55ID: 11462841

Okay. I was busy collecting instructions and didn't see your response.

1. Make absolutely sure that you are logging on to the machine in safe mode with username=administrator. I don't run XP Home, but from what other experts suggest this is the only way to manage a system.

2. When you try to log on with username=administrator in safemode and you are prompted for a password just leave the field blank, unless you remember assigning a password.

 

by: gateguardPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:44:42ID: 11462845

Done all that.  Went through the same set of instructions in safe mode, as administrator.  The checkbox isn't there.  

When I bought this system it came with a restore CD but not the actual Microsoft XP installation CD.  Which makes me think this system is pre-tweaked.  I believe some registry values have been removed or altered.  

 

by: gemartiPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:46:15ID: 11462851

Sorry, takes my brain a few minutes to wake up..

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa

The values are:
ForceGuest=1 : Use this value to force guests on
ForceGuest=0 : Use this value to force guests off

 

by: gemartiPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:48:15ID: 11462857

If you don't see the key above you can add it with this command line:

START | RUN | CMD
Enter
REG ADD HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\lsa /v ForceGuest /t REG_BINARY /d 0

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:50:09ID: 11462862

Simple File Sharing is enabled by default and you cannot disable it in Home Edition...  but if you want to add the Security Tab to your Home edition folders, here is one method that I have seen used:

Adding the Security Tab for W XP Home edition:

Go to:http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/downloads/recommended/scm/default.asp

Instructions: Download the x86 (Intel) version of the Security Configuration Manager and save it to your hard disk.  Double click the SCESP4I.EXE file you downloaded and extract the contents to a temporary location on your hard disk.  Then open the folder you extracted the files to and locate the Setup.inf (Setup Information) file.  Right click Setup.inf and select Install.  After the installation is finished, reboot your computer.

Disclaimer:  I have tested this procedure on my XP Home installation, and it works.  I cannot guarantee that it will work on your system.  Make sure you create a System Restore point before proceeding.

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:51:04ID: 11462864

Additionally, here is another work-around:

You can set permissions in xp home to shared folders etc.

1.  Simply just go to Start > Run and type "SHRPUBW" no quotes.  Click on the browse button to choose the folder you want to share.  Type in a share name.  Type in a share description if you want one.  Once complete hit NEXT

2.  The first 3 choices are quite obvious. If you really want to customize the way the permissions are set choose the last option, and click CUSTOM

In the CUSTOM screen you will see a screen just like the one you see in XP Pro.

You can select groups, users, etc. And set the permissions to your liking.

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:52:49ID: 11462870

BTW:  did not notice it above, but if already mentioned, forgive me..  Your file system must also be NTFS to get these security features to work...

FE

 

by: gateguardPosted on 2004-07-03 at 05:55:56ID: 11462882

Actually, I found this value in Wayne's a couple of hours ago.  My original value was 1... changed it to 0.  Had no effect.

But after reading your instructions, I deleted the value (it was a D-word) and recreated it as a REG_BINARY... still no security tab on folder properties and still no checkbox in folder options.

The registry is the registry, right?  I don't have to do this in Safe Mode.  Right?

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-07-03 at 06:02:21ID: 11462908

No, reg hacks do not need to be done in Safe Mode...  Did you try my suggestion yet...   (If you are trying to place Simple File Sharing in the GUI, I don't think it can be done..)

FE

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-07-03 at 06:03:26ID: 11462915

One thing though...   you may have to reboot for the reg hack to take effect...  It all depends on the hack and its place in the registry..

FE

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-07-03 at 06:07:35ID: 11462925

Thanks..  hope it works for your situation...

FE

 

by: gateguardPosted on 2004-07-03 at 06:07:45ID: 11462926

That worked.  Now I have the security tab.

I still don't have the check-box in folder options, but since I never want to use SFS, I don't care about that.

Thanks, Fatal Exception, for showing me this and thanks, gemarti for working with me on this.

By the way, I didn't use a Restore Point before trying this because I just restored this system using the Restore CD set (which is actually a Norton Ghost Image file) because my computer was recently whacked by spyware.  (Yes, I did have good backups of all my files.)

Which is the reason I want the security tab.  I have the firewall turned on, but I also want to make sure that Everyone is not enable on any folders.

 

by: Fatal_ExceptionPosted on 2004-07-03 at 06:11:47ID: 11462942

*grin*  good thinking...  (Like I mentioned above, I think yo will find that you can't put SFS option in the folder options with Home..  but as long as you can set permissions, then you should be just fine...  suggest you test it, if you have a networked computer nearby.. )

Good Luck..

FE

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