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XP Home - Limited vs. Administrator Level - and alleged account I can't see?

Asked by: mythology8

I have a relatively new ACER laptop (Aspire 3620). running XP Home (why anyone would use this O/S is beyond me - ugh!).
I was unable to get an account to act as an 'administrator' level account. It would only be 'user' even though I would specifically tell it to be an 'administrator.'
So... I delete that account and created a new one. This new one works fine.
However, this is for my job and I need to re-create that original account (just the name, not looking to recover files) -but as an 'admin' level account.
I then attempted to create the account and it says the account is already created? It is not showing up, even when in Safe Mode and logged in as the Administrator itself. As well, when I turn on the 'Welcome Scren' it does not show that name. I can't see that account listed anywhere, but yet I can't create it.
Because we use NOVELL it is important that this user's laptop use the specific name I am trying to re-create.
My question is this... where is this acccount and why can't I see it if it still exists?
As well, why is it showing as LIMITED if I'm making it FULL or ADMIN?

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by: Crash2100Posted on 2007-03-14 at 20:50:45ID: 18724552

Right-click My Computer, and click Manage.  In the program that appears, click the '+' next to "Users and Groups", underneath that click "Users".  Now see if the account is listed in here.

 

by: mythology8Posted on 2007-03-14 at 21:45:19ID: 18724784

As I'm writing this I don't have the XP HOME laptop in front of me, but to the best of my recollection there is no MANAGE abilities with XP Home. I'm quite familiar with the MANAGE snap-in that you're talking about, but it doesn't exist in HOME    :(

 

by: ShineOnPosted on 2007-03-16 at 08:04:11ID: 18735317

Um.

You're using XP HOME (ugh as you say.)  It is NOT SUPPORTED >BY MICROSOFT< in a business network.  You (or whomever bought this laptop) should have purchased XP Pro.  Trying to connect XP Home to a business network - even if the back-end server platform >is< NetWare (Novell is a COMPANY not a PRODUCT) and not Windows - is a dodgy operation and should be expected to present you with many "interesting challenges."

Regardless, there is an Administrator account, even in XP Home, as you mentioned.  To get to it, at the login screen with the cutesy pictures, press and hold "ctrl-alt-del" until the "normal" Windows GINA shows up.  From there you can type in "Administrator" and the administrator password (provided you remember what you assigned as the Adminstrator password when you first configured the machine.)  You may already know all that, since you said you had logged in as Administrator.

Anyway, logged in as Administrator, you should be able to create the specially-named account.  For sake of example, let's refer to the "Owner" account, since that's one that Home installs by default - and some Admins like to use it instead of local Administrator for "security through obscurity" purposes...

Heck, you should've been able to add  the Owner account to the local Administrators group, when you tried to do that the first go-round, but again, you already know that.  

If you can't add the account back in, then the delete wasn't complete.  Home likes to hide even more stuff from even a logged-in Administrator than anything this side of Mac OS... ;)   Try changing Explorer to display hidden files and system files (and unhide extensions while you're at it) and then blow away the "owner" profile from C:\Documents and Settings.  You may have to play around with file attributes to delete some of 'em.

You may also have to go into REGEDIT and blow away the SID from the HKEY\USERS key.  Don't know.  How to determine which SID is the one in question is an exercise left up to the reader... ;)

Also, even though Home has the fischer-price toylike administrative tools, I think Home still has many of the management consoles Pro has. They just hide 'em from the general public.  Look in system32 for "COMPMGMT.MSC" or do a Start, Run and type in COMPMGMT.MSC...  Again, don't know, 'cause I refuse to support Home in my network.

Barring that - do you have the recover disk(s) that came with it?  You may need to blow it back to default and start over...  or better yet, pop for the home-to-pro upgrade and install pro.

 

by: mythology8Posted on 2007-03-24 at 11:12:33ID: 18785817

Sorry Gentlemen, it looks like you both missed the mark. It seems SAFEMODE got me everything I needed.


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by: Crash2100Posted on 2007-03-24 at 12:17:11ID: 18785984

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