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Rmeote Desktop Connection explained very basic please

Asked by: madmx78

Hi Experts;
I am running windows xp professional on two computers. I would like to access computer A through remote access while I am out of the office with my laptop computer B.

Please note computer A is behind a router (netgear WNR834B). I am not very familiar with port forwarding, static ip's and remote access settings etc. So I would appreciate settings in simple terms.

First of all I would like to use windows xp pro feature Remote desktop connection. One more thing I am not clear of is, do I need to set a server or domain and if yes how do I do that?

To serve my purpose I think RDC is the best and fastest option. I have searched for step by step guides to be able to create a connection and I tried dyndns.org for a host name but I dont seem to be getting anywhere. Please assist.

Thanks

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by: that1guy15Posted on 2007-09-07 at 09:06:01ID: 19848892

Your right you will need to set up "port forwarding" in your gateway router. this takes all incoming RDC connections and forwards them to computer B (or what ever computer you want). What type of router do you have and ill help you configure it. Also do you have a firewall or anything else in between the internet and your network?

Just to make sure you know when you use RDC over the internet all data and information is sent in "clear text" so anyone can sniff your traffic and see every thing you are sending back and forth (including usernames and passwords). You can set up security with RDC but it gets a little more involved (just search remote desktop security on google).

After you have port forwarding set up from your home computer or anywhere open RDC (start->run and type mstsc) and enter the ip address assigned to you by your ISP. hit enter and then enter the username and password of the user on the remote computer you would like to log in as. If you are trying to log in as a domain user type "domain/username". if you are just trying to log in as a local user just type the username and password.

That is pretty much it.

 

by: madmx78Posted on 2007-09-07 at 09:21:03ID: 19849021

ok.
I have a router and I guess it will have a firewall and I have windows firewall. That should be it as I dont run an antivirus program.

If we start with the port forwarding and set up RDC can I alter the security afterwards or is there a program that helps me do that. I will mainly be using the connection to read my emails while I am away so it will be best if no one has access to it.

The reason I chose RDC is because I thought microsoft would have not had any loop holes. But there we go. If RDC is not secure what else is out there that is secure?

Thanks

 

by: madmx78Posted on 2007-09-07 at 09:27:32ID: 19849069

This is the admin screen for my router for port forwarding. But as I mentioned earlier I cannot seem to get it. I need to know what to forward the port to. In other words what to type in each box kind of thing.

http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WNR834B/SuperSync.htm

Looking at the screenshots can I type exactly the same as it says or do I have to gather my own number from somewhere. If yes from where?

 

by: MshinePosted on 2007-09-07 at 09:30:05ID: 19849087

The default port for RDP is 3389 unless you change it.

 

by: madmx78Posted on 2007-09-07 at 09:33:46ID: 19849114

So is it secure to go for the default port 3389 or make up my own?

 

by: MshinePosted on 2007-09-07 at 09:33:59ID: 19849117

If you are running a router and have the firewall active, there is no need for the windows
firewall.. so disable the windows firewall.

You will also need to active remote connections in XP. You can do this by right clicking My Computer
and select properties. On the remote tab click the bottom checkbox, "Allow Remote Connection to
this computer"

You connection will be pretty secure, so unless someone gets ahold of your password and
username, you should be fine.

If you want a truely secure connection you will need to install a VPN connection and use encryption.
A little more complicated, and you have to buy software for that.

 

by: MPECSIncPosted on 2007-09-07 at 09:35:38ID: 19849130

FYI: The Remote Desktop Protocol is secure. The protocol establishes a secure connection to your system BEFORE you see your system's logon screen.

From the following article:
Encryption Levels
High
This level encrypts data sent from the client to the remote computer and from the remote computer to the client by using strong 128-bit encryption. Use this level only if you are sure that your client computer supports 128-bit encryption (for example, if it is running Windows XP Professional). Clients that do not support this level of encryption will not be able to connect.

TechNet explanation of RDP: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457106.aspx

Version 6.0 of RDP now incorporates secure preauthentication before the link to the remote deskop is made. Make sure your machines are all updated and you will be fine. You will notice that they are using the newest version because you will see a logon screen pop up as soon as you click "Connect" in the client.

You make sure you have all user names on your XP box set with a PASSPHRASE and a solid user name. Then you put your user ID into the Remote Desktop Users group, then port forward 3389 to that machine. Make sure that the IP address of the XP Pro box is static so it never gets lost.

Philip

 

by: LeeTutorPosted on 2007-09-07 at 09:36:13ID: 19849135

According to the portforward.com page on your router, you need to set up a static IP address on the computer A behind the router.  (It might already have a static IP address.)  Go to this page to see how to check/do that:

http://www.portforward.com/networking/static-xp.htm

 

by: MPECSIncPosted on 2007-09-07 at 09:37:12ID: 19849140

I suggest keeping the Windows Firewall and defining a port exception that has the router's IP in it for 3389.

Philip

 

by: MshinePosted on 2007-09-07 at 09:37:25ID: 19849143

Personally I changed my port numbers for an extra layer of protection. You would need to change
it in two places. The first on the local PC in the registry (be careful) and then in the port forwarding
section. I have 3 PC's at home that I connect to remotely, and in order to do this each one has
to have a unique port number so the router knows where to send them.

Here is a link to learn how to change the port number on you remote machine:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/187623

It is easy to change

 

by: MshinePosted on 2007-09-07 at 09:40:20ID: 19849169

madmx78 Lee Tutor's comment is important. You will have to do this.

Also note that you will need to know your WAN ip address for the remote PC.
Not the private IP address (192.168.x.x for example) that will be used behind your router.

 

by: MPECSIncPosted on 2007-09-07 at 09:44:00ID: 19849192

There is a tool called TSHammer that only takes a second to sniff all ports for listenning terminal services. Tools like that eliminate any advantage of changing the listening port.

Philip

 

by: LeeTutorPosted on 2007-09-07 at 09:46:54ID: 19849215

To find your WAN  IP address, a very easy thing is to go to this page (on computer A), the host in the Remote Desktop Connection:

http://whatismyip.com/

 

by: LeeTutorPosted on 2007-09-07 at 09:53:24ID: 19849275

By the way, here is a very good site complete with screenshots of the configuration steps within Windows XP that you need to go through to set up Remote Desktop Connection:

http://www.dslwebserver.com/main/fr_index.html?/main/sbs-remote-desktop-overview.html

 

by: madmx78Posted on 2007-09-07 at 09:55:01ID: 19849287

I have my WAN ip address - I am trying to set up a static IP addrss but I am having duffuculty with the Preferred DNS server. On the ipconfig/all screen I am getting DNS Servers as 192.168.1.1 When I enter this in I loose my internet connection. The option to select the DNs server automaticall is grayed out as soon as I select use the following IP address radio button.

What do I do?

 

by: madmx78Posted on 2007-09-07 at 10:02:24ID: 19849346

I have sussed it out so I am on nmy way.

Here is a summary of where I am at the moment.
Port forwarding done - 3389 (does service name make a difference)
Static IP is set
I have a WAN
I have activated Remote Connection (My compter - properties - remote tab - Allow users to connect remotely to this computer)

Now what???

 

by: MshinePosted on 2007-09-07 at 11:33:05ID: 19850007

Not sure about the service name, it might be something unique to your router, but most
likely it doesn;t matter as only the port number should be important.

Are we correct to assume you figured out the static IP address, and it is functional
now? if so good job!

Have you tried making a connection since these changes?

The computer you are trying to connect to will be the WAN ip address, not
the acutal PC name or local ip address you assigned!! You router will sort
out where to send the connection based upon the port number. Then put
in your username and password that is on the remote machine.

Domain is not required unless your are trying to connect to a domain, and
if I follow this thread correctly, you are not running a server or domain at
your office.

 

by: MshinePosted on 2007-09-07 at 11:37:50ID: 19850036

Hang in there madmx78 you are very close now!! If the connection doesn't work
at this point it will definitely be a configuration error in the routers settings.

As long as your static IP address setting on the remote machine are set in the
range you configured on the router. Your subnet mask should be 255.255.255.0

Also I believe the Gateway & Primary DNS servers on the remote machine should
be set at 192.168.2.1 not 192.168.1.1, but I could be wrong and what you have
might be fine with your router.

 

by: Computer101Posted on 2007-10-07 at 17:43:32ID: 20031513

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