Arrgghh, what a pity - I have to let that settle in my mind some time ...
any way out of this, .. . did read on your link about VMware as an alternative, anything else, reliable ?
(Thanks so far for quick reply)
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Windows XP professional on Virtual Box OSE resists to reckognize my onboard Intel 865 graphics chipset
I'm running a Windows XP professional in a Virtual Box OSE on Suse Linux 10.3.
The windows working fine as if installed on a machine of its own, execpt, lately when I tried to
run a newly installed simulation game on it, it said "Train Simulator requires hardware accelerator".
I've been told to run dxdiag and under 'display' to enable the directx accelerator, but in device there is no
display device recogniced and all greyed out and in Windows device manager there is under
'other devices' a 'base system device' und linked to that a 'Video Controller (VGA compatible)', but both are
with a question mark and it says 'no driver installed, using generic vga driver'.
I tried to install the original Intel driver that came with the disk for my mainboard (my graphic adapter is onboard
Intel 865 G chipset) and I tried it in several ways - a) trying to install it as a driver for the questionable video controller
fails every time when it tries to read the .inf file saying that it does not contain hardware information for my device.
Then I tried b) too install the Intel driver by automatic setup, which went ok, but after rebooting virtual computer
the machine still is using the generic vga driver and not the native intel driver. Then, c) I managed actually
to follow a manual setup instruction for the intel driver which gave me a 'Intel 82865 G Graphics Controller' under
'Display-Adapters' in Windows Device manager, but like the Video controller, the Intel 81865 G comes with a question mark and
an error remark, saying 'This device cannot start (Code 10).
So, clueless now, since all other device and peripheral are recognized and working fine in my virtual box Win XP
I don't think this being a problem due to virtual box, but what else could it be? Actually under Linux
the hardware graphics adapter is working fine and recognised but not so in the Windows box, so the
hardware itself must be ok. I know this may not be a common setup but i hope that anyone came across this
before or has knowledge with graphic adapter issues under windows, if that may be the case. Thanks
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You are running a Virtual Computer. Virtual computers are powerful, but they are limited. Most virtual computer programs use generic hardware for the virtualization. This means if you use the virtual machine on a comptuer with the best graphic card out there and on a computer with some cheap onboard solution the virtual computer will have the same hardware.
You are not going to be playing many games on a virtual computer due to the overhead and hardware limitations. I would recommend that you play the game on a OS installed on the hardware - not in a virtual machine.
I hope this information helps. Good luck.
You should have your graphics card recognized as a VirtualBox Graphics Adapter, regardless of what your physical adapter is. I take it you haven't installed the VBox Guest Additions? This is similar to the Vmware client tools in Vmware.
To install in VirtualBox, whilst your VM is running, escape out of full-screen, and go to the VM menu. Then select Install Client Additions, or words to that affect. It should be bottom of the menu. In the VM a virtual drive will be available. Run the VBoxGuestAdditions.exe package, and follow on-screen instructions. Then reboot.
I'm not sure if this will allow you to play the game in question, but at least you will have the correct drivers sorted out for the Virtual Environment and devices will be recognized in the device manager.
By the way, it may be possible to run the strain simulator on Crossover, or wine. Years ago I was able to have a full internet deathmatch of Unreal Tournament whilst running in Suse (version 7.2 back then I think), without any issues.
Hope that help, let me know if you're having difficulties.
amrox:
I did install the VBoxGuestAddition.exe package successfully and at least it brought a little improvement to my guest windows xp:
- in Device manager no more ?-issues
- in dxdiag - Display it shows no at least the directdraw acceleration
- It is possible for me now to have the guest Wndows XP running in same choice of display resolution as LInux OS,
which before was limited to window much smaller than my normal 1280 x 1048.
However, after all no 3dx and train simulator won't do without that.
Then did a bit reaserach on VirtualBox website myself and found this one, only 1 month old:
http://www.virtualbox.org/
So, does this mean, virtual box will soon be available with 3dx ?
It is not quite clear to me from that VirtualBox website, but guess thed's announce it broadly
if it would be available already, since lots of people seem to have interest in that virtualbox 3dx
(taking from the community thread).
I'm not too sure to be honest
One thing you might want to look at though: the default video memory for virtual machines is 8meg. Surely you would need to allocate something like 128meg minimum. If you go into the virtual machine settings before you boot up, you can increase.
Other than that, I'm afraid I'm not sure what VB does or doesn't support.
Don't know if Vmware would give you better support?
>>> Don't know if Vmware would give you better support?
maybe, but won't get the virtual server below 199 USD, and to be honest with that money I
could invest into a second machine nicely and then have whatever I need on direct hardware.
For the game, which is the my only issue for 3dx under Windows, of course I'd be able to try
with wine, but, in that aspect lbertacco is right, would be a diffferent story, so here is now all about
that 3dx under virtualbox windows and from all of you here I've learned lots that I haven't been aware
of before and got precious tips, thanks for that.
I intend to leave this question open for another two or three days, want to do some research myself, which
I can add then here or receive additional knowlegde to that from experts.
yea Vmware Server is definitely free
It was renamed from Vmware GSX a few years ago which was not free. From that point on it became open source.
http://www.vmware.com/down
lbertacco
thanks for hint !!! Seems you're right ...
Actually I did search on VMware and could not find any relation between 3dx and VMware server,
but found this one
http://www.vmware.com/supp
So seems intuitively I was right when looking up price for VMware workstation some days ago ;-)
It is what they provide for individual desktop solutions.
Did already wonder why this VMware server was so heavily big for download (550MB !!!), but if it is
thought for datacenter virtualisation ...
Not really keen to load a dinosaur onto my system, either.
Have the feeling that virtualBox will come up with any 3dx-y soon, if not there already
(i mean, i haven't updated virtualbox to the latest version, which I'll try soon)
So
a) updating virtualbox and see how it improves and
b) if still no 3dx, leave it there and wait for the better and for the train-simulator game
I'll try for the wine or similiar and see how it goes
You also have another option (a bit time consuming though):
you get someone with VMWare Workstation (or use the trial, or even http://www.easyvmx.com) to create the virtual machine for you . Once created, you can run the virtual machine with VMWare Player, which is free.
>>> get someone with VMWare Workstation (or use the trial ...
Well, I did download the VMWare Workstation and installed ok, seemes to come with VMPlayer integrated
and is just installing my Windows XP ...
ONLY .. i had to power on the virtual machine using my registration key for the 30 day trial,
so after 30 days I won't be able to do lots with the virtual machine, will I, since it is locked by VMware ? ;-((
yes, I'm sure
just file-open
The vmdk.lck files are just lock files to the drive to ensure that you don't have multiple virtual machines running with the same SCSI drives/virtual SCSI drives mapped. If they still exist when the VM is powered down you can simply delete them if player complains
Just open up the vmdks like you would open up a word document. It's that simple.
VMDK files are supported in many apps. Apparently VirtualBox can even use vmdk files, although I've never tired it.
Just like vmware server, vmware player is open source.
The limitations are that you cannot edit a virtual machine using their GUI, ie. add more virtual RAM, add virtual drives, change network mode etc, but if you create a virtual machine using vmware server or vmware workstation, you can "play" it with the player.
Player is even downloadable on its own, without workstation, as you can download vmdk's with pre-installed OSs from anywhere eg. Vmware appliance website.
Now I get this one when I pwoer up the VM Win XP:
"3d graphics acceleration will be disabled
This computer does not have a 3D graphics system supported by VMware Workstation."
Of course I missed this bit
"Hardware
Use a host video card with support for accelerated OpenGL, such as NVIDIA TNT, GeForce and Quadro cards, or ATI FireGL and Radeon 8500 (or higher) video cards. If you are unsure, check with your hardware manufacturer. "
from http://www.vmware.com/supp
A new release of VirtualBox has just been released: http://www.virtualbox.org/
It adds support for 3d Acceleration but only through the OpenGl interface, still no Direct3d.
Thanks for the great news lbertacco,
>> It adds support for 3d Acceleration but only through the OpenGl interface, still no Direct3d.
never mind, same with the VMWARE so I'll get a card with open GL soon (lots of cards do have this
actually as I found) and I should be fine.
Thanks again, nice X-Mas surprise ;-)
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by: lbertaccoPosted on 2008-12-13 at 12:57:56ID: 23165425
It is not possible. Virtual box doesn't virtualize the 3d capabilities of graphic card. See eg. http://ubuntuforums.org/sh