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Active Desktop Recovery Issue

Asked by: lamission

I was trying to utilize the following solution (see below) to my Active Desktop Recovery Issue in XP (SP3).    And it works to a point, but it is not a solution.  Most of our users operate at the restricted level of user.  If I promote them to be part of the administrators group I can then do the this hack and the problem will appear to have been corrected.  I can log off, reboot what have you and the problem is still gone.  However as soon as I demote the user back to the restricted level of user the problem comes right back.  A subsequent look at the registry reveals that ForceActiveDesktopOn has been reset to 1.  I have attempted to perform the registry edits through run as on regedt32 but even then the registry changes and then changes back.  HKEY_CURRENT_USER seems to dynamically reset depending on the user and the privileges of that user.  Any more thoughts would be most welcome.


User Key: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\
Explorer]
System Key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\
Explorer]
Value Name: NoActiveDesktop
Data Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)
Value Data: (0 = disable restriction, 1 = enable restriction)

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2009-03-20 at 15:20:01ID24251096
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Windows XP Operating System

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Answers

 

by: mrmarkfuryPosted on 2009-03-20 at 15:27:40ID: 23944501

Have you tried checking the group policy to allow active desktop instead of editing the registry?

Start > Run > gpedit.msc
Check
User Config > Administrative Templates > Desktop > Active Desktop > Enable Active Desktop
&
User Config > Administrative Templates > Desktop > Active Desktop > Disable Active Desktop

 

by: lamissionPosted on 2009-03-20 at 16:03:08ID: 23944712

Yes that was my initial attempt it was only when that failed that I started to pursue other ideas.  I read somewhere about deleting the desktop.htt files but that did no good as well.

 

by: mrmarkfuryPosted on 2009-03-20 at 16:06:26ID: 23944730

 

by: venom96737Posted on 2009-03-21 at 00:25:06ID: 23946224


Note:  If the "Turn on Classic Shell" setting ( in User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Explorer) is enabled, Active Desktop is disabled, and both of these policies are ignored.

check to see if that is being used first cause that would cause that to auto populate the active desktop being off.

Next what do you mean by restricted?  Are these groups that you have created yourself or are you using the default limited accounts?  are these connected to a server?  If they are connected to a server you will need to edit the group policies on the server for that group and it will get sent to all the computers.

 

by: johnb6767Posted on 2009-03-21 at 00:51:45ID: 23946293

"I have attempted to perform the registry edits through run as on regedt32 "

First of all, when you do a RunAs, to make a change to HKCU, it is making it under the profile of the user credentials that you used to launch teh RUNAS, not the one logged in currently....

By default, unless they are an admin, thier rights will be limited to those registry keys.... Try allowing Full control to the EXPLORER subkey, to the Users Group.....Just for testing at least....

 

by: samiam41Posted on 2009-03-23 at 05:21:15ID: 23956825

Here are two options regarding the modification of the registry keys.

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Server_Software/File_Servers/Active_Directory/Q_24172603.html

You need to make sure that you put the batch file that will modify the registry in the location identified in this link.  I was able to modify all registries in our domain by the options listed in that link.

 

by: samiam41Posted on 2009-03-24 at 06:40:11ID: 23967991

Updates?

 

by: lamissionPosted on 2009-03-25 at 12:55:31ID: 23983932

I was waiting to get more information.  On one of the computers I was simply able to toggle active desktop on and off which straightened out the situation.  That however did not work on the other.  I have had no luck in adjusting the rights in HKCU as that is dynamic and when I adjust the access rights it loses the changes in preference for the appropriate settings for that user.  I have not been able to more then reference the login script idea as that is not in my purview to change.  I guess I am still looking for a solution as opposed to just covering up the symptoms.

 

by: samiam41Posted on 2009-03-25 at 13:02:57ID: 23984047

So you can't modify the HKCU keys with a login script being run as an admin?

 

by: lamissionPosted on 2009-03-27 at 12:17:39ID: 24004468

I am sorry, I posted my last reply in a hurry and I suspect I was not very clear.  We have between 100 and 200 computers on our network.  Most of our users login as restricted users utilizing the local group of users (default limited accounts).  We already have a group policy in place and it is working just fine for the majority of our units.  We have just a small hand full that are experiencing this Active Desktop Recovery issue.  The issue directly ties into the users local profile.  I can login to the same machine using another user and the group policy is strictly enforced including but not limited to the setting of the company wide wallpaper.  I suspect this is being caused either by some corruption or possibly an intrusion of some sort that so far has gone undetected.  For that reason I am questioning the use of a permanent login script for all of our users in order to rectify the issues of a few.  If I am missing something then please elaborate further.

 

by: samiam41Posted on 2009-03-27 at 14:47:00ID: 24005767

If the registry mod isn't configured to run under the computer portion of the group policy, then it runs with the permissions of the default users.  This would explain it rolling back (if it was ever modified to begin with.)

You mentioned that the people having this problem make up a small group.  Have you found any common themes (Group membership, image build, make/model, software installed, etc..)?  

Take one of the problem pc's and run Malware Bytes against it: http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam-download.php  See if anything comes back.  Also dump your event viewer log from one of those problem pc's and let's see if we can find a common warning or error.  

Dump Event viewer: http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/48677/dump-and-query-event-log-files-on-remote-systems.html
-or-
Use this cool utility: http://www.eventlogxp.com/download/elex.zip

 

by: lamissionPosted on 2009-03-27 at 15:53:24ID: 24006183

Cool thanks, as I am out of here in 10 minutes I will try those ideas on Monday and then I will get back with you.

 

by: johnb6767Posted on 2009-03-27 at 18:32:15ID: 24006778

If you make a startup script to handle the HKLM reg mod, it should work fine. You cant do modify a Policies key (there are 4 of them) as a limited user, even though a limited user has FULL CONTROL of theier Profile, and most other registry keys under HKCU. I think the machine startup script is the wqay to go....

 

by: lamissionPosted on 2009-03-31 at 15:41:04ID: 24034529

I had this error on two different computers in our facility.  After a while I was able to solve the first one by simply activating Active Desktop and setting it up with a URL.  When that worked I simply deleted the current active desktop and all was right with the world.  This solution did not work on the second PC so I began to revisit all of the solutions from the top.  Once again gpedit did not cut it but a comment made on the 21st provided me with an idea.  I went ahead and enable "Turn on of the Classic Shell"  and on this computer it solved the problem.  While I think some of these other ideas might have worked this was the one I chose so game over.  Thanks to everyone who participated!

 

by: TonyCabonePosted on 2009-09-15 at 16:18:35ID: 25340553

buy a mac and burn your pc ;)

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