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Cannot get to Windows Update!?!

Asked by: ACz

Cannot get to Windows Update!?!

My wifes computer has been running Windows XP SP3 without any problems for a couple of years, at least.  She is out of town, and the computer has been switched off for a couple of weeks, since early October 2009.
I thought it would be a good idea to install the patches that Microsoft released last Tuesday, but discovered the following problem:

Opening IE 8, clicking on Tools, Windows Update produces this message:

      Server Error
     403  Forbidden:  Access is denied
     You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials that you supplied.

Ive never had anything like this happen before; I dont think there is anything changed about the computer hardware or software, so I am stumped.  Perhaps someone else has been down this path;  any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

IE8 and Firefox both seem to be working OK, except for the problem described above.

"      Checked for viruses using external web-based scanners (Panda Cloud antivirus and Panda Activescan 2.0,
"      Checked for malware using SuperAntiSpyware and Malwarebytes (which were able to update themselves fine)
"      My next step was to go back to a System Restore point in September, which did not help either.

As an additional clue, the little castle icon for Windows Defender is in the system tray with an exclamation point.  Opening Windows Defender and clicking on Check for Updates Now produces this message:

    Error found:  Code 0x80072f8f

Checked for viruses using external web-based scanners (Panda Cloud antivirus and Panda Activescan 2.0,
Checked for malware using SuperAntiSpyware and Malwarebytes (which were able to update themselves fine)
My next step was to go back to a System Restore point in September.
That did not help.

There are various, somewhat confusing, pages at Microsoft that make reference to that numeric error code.

Following the suggestions, I have
"      re-set the date and time
"      checked the c:\I386\HOSTS  file
"      found no files in c:\windows\system32\logfiles.  
"      turned off the Comodo software firewall that has worked fine with no problems for more than a year.
"      Run CCleaner to see if it identifies anything strange

So far, no luck.
Thank you for any help!


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Answers

 

by: Raheem05Posted on 2009-10-19 at 15:30:46ID: 25609570

1. Click Start.
2. Choose Run.
3. In the Run box, type: regsvr32 MSXML3.DLL
Press okay

If that hasn't helped you may need to re-registered some more files:

1. Click Start.
2. Choose Run.
3. In the Run box, type (pressing okay after each one) :-

net stop wuauserv

Repeat for the following:
regsvr32 wuapi.dll
regsvr32 wups.dll
regsvr32 wuaueng.dll
regsvr32 wuaueng1.dll
regsvr32 wucltui.dll
regsvr32 wuweb.dll
regsvr32 MSXML3.dll
regsvr32 qmgr.dll
regsvr32 qmgrprxy.dll
regsvr32 jscript.dll

net start wuauserv

 

by: Raheem05Posted on 2009-10-19 at 15:31:22ID: 25609574

Let me know how you get on and if you get any errors when registering these dll's

 

by: leakim971Posted on 2009-10-19 at 15:32:21ID: 25609580

Hello ACz,

Try to update your SUS Agent :
See link on this page for example : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949104

Regards.

 

by: IT-Monkey-DavePosted on 2009-10-19 at 15:33:16ID: 25609583

Was the date and time grossly off when you checked it?

You might check this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931125

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-10-19 at 15:34:36ID: 25609587

Is the date and time on the PC set properly.  If it has been switched off for a couple of weeks, the battery on the motherboard will have been used for this time to keep the date and time settings running and the battery may have run out of steam!

If the date/time is wrong, Windows Update will not be happy.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-10-19 at 15:35:20ID: 25609592

Darn it - IT-Monkey-Dave - beat me to it!

 

by: ConsultPCPosted on 2009-10-19 at 15:36:33ID: 25609595

try to change in control panel - automatic updates - to Download updates for me but let me... , restart your computer and wait 1-2 hours. If dont work, try to install manualy Windows Installer - new version

 

by: Raheem05Posted on 2009-10-19 at 15:37:27ID: 25609599

jesus guys everyones on the ball today :)!!!

 

by: ACzPosted on 2009-10-19 at 16:00:18ID: 25609718

wow, you guys are quick.
Oddly, the date at time seemed to be OK when I noticed the problem, not off at all.  Nevertheless, I clicked on the clock, and updated with time.nist.gov anyway.
Of course I have rebooted since then and the time is still fine.

As for Root Certificates, I did in fact download and run this file
File Name:      rootsupd.exe  Version:      931125
Knowledge Base (KB) Articles:      KB931125  Date Published:      9/21/2009

but it executed silently, and I'm not sure how to double check that it actually installed properly.
Thanks for all help so far.  I have to work on this in between other tasks.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-10-19 at 16:04:00ID: 25609734

Can you please try to run the following from a command prompt:

netsh winsock reset

You will need to reboot afterwards.

 

by: optomaPosted on 2009-10-19 at 16:53:54ID: 25609959

Can you hit start, then run.
Type "Inetcpl.cpl" and hit ok.

Select Connections tab
Select Lan settings.

Are the boxes checked?
If so uncheck them and click ok

 

by: byrkePosted on 2009-10-19 at 19:28:35ID: 25610637

You can try a software call dial-a-fix. Google it. Check the fix windows update boxes.

 

by: ConsultPCPosted on 2009-10-19 at 22:26:43ID: 25611221

Also, uninstall the Windows Defender (have a look in the system logs and see all the errors it produces), and try a windows update directly from Microsofts's website: http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en-us.

 

by: ACzPosted on 2009-10-25 at 21:04:13ID: 25659603

Sorry about the delay, I was working out of town and only now able to return to this problem.

I noted that the only non-working programs were Microsoft Update and Windows Defender.  All other programs were able to update themselves and run properly, including MBAM, SAS, Secunia PSI, and Panda Cloud Antivirus.

So, I was very hesitant to try anything that might wreck other programs, such as the Winsock reset.

I set Microsoft's Automatic Updates to Every Day, and designated the time to be a few minutes in the future.  Half an hour later, zero bytes had been downloaded.  I tried that 3 times with the same result, so I felt that approach was not working.


Finally, I went to Add/Remove Programs to uninstall Windows Defender.  While there, I noticed that Windows Live OneCare had been installed last year, and it was probably used rarely or never.  So I uninstalled that too.

Then, after a reboot, Windows Update installed 17 patches on the first try, and 1 more after a retry.
I did not reinstall Windows Defender.
Everything seems to be OK now.
I spread the points around, many thanks to all who took the time to think and contribute.

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