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Browse All TopicsI have an emachines w3400 which I would like to restore using the system recovery feature. The owner has already used up the "1 copy" creation and lost the disks. When I try to either restart from within xp by choosing "System Recovery", or doing F11 upon boot, the system states "Preparing system recovery options" then goes to a screen that displayes the "e" logo and "Powered by PC Angel System Recovery", where it stays and never goes beyond.
I can boot into xp fine, and most things seem to function normally. I am only doing this because the system was previously riddled with spyware and a trojan or two. Now, Norton Internet Security will not install and there are some other issues that just wanted me to go and wipe everything clean. The partition with the restore files appears to be fine, so I'm wondering why the problem with recovery.
Any ideas?
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If you're unlucky the Trend online scan might die (I've seen infections prevent it's use). In that case I have had luck downloading / installing this free A-V software to clean viruses:
http://www.free-av.com/
This link will scan for spyware (after asking for ActiveX download but otherwise is free and no baner.adware, etc)
http://www.spywareinfo.com
If Bartender_1's tip works first no need to split the points here.
Good...and interestng.
"The partition with the restore files appears to be fine, so I'm wondering why the problem with recovery." Do you just mean you are able to see this partiton or do you have some tool to check it? At this point I would suspect the data on the recovery partition as bad.
If you call Gateway (err, e-Machines) they should provide some troubleshooting support for that partition. Alternately the fee for a recovery CD is small - as in the $20-$30 range and worth every penny. We recently had a user with an e-Machines HDD go *completely* dead (could not even make it a slave from another HDD) and we did exactly that - ordered a recovery CD and bought a new HDD (HDD was out of warranty).
The_IT_Garage
Thanks for posting. Basically I mean the drive is not giving any error, it's locked as it should be, and shows that there are contents. Not concrete, I know, but more a gut feeling that the contents are ok. It seems to me something is wrong elsewhere, but I certainly could be wrong.
I'll bear in mind the other info calling and getting a recovery cd.
Like Scion is a cheap Toyota, e-Machines is a cheap Gateway: http://tinyurl.com/rqofe
How ironic. Scion may be less expensive than a Toyota, but in no way is a Scion built cheap. I own a Scion xB, one of the first built, and I can tell you as someone who has owned both, this is every bit as good. Almost 3 years I've had this and not one problem. And everyone I know around here that owns one says the same.
Bad example. :)
Ok, new info. The owner of this pc has produced the recovery disks. Following the directions for using the recovery disks produces the same results as attempting from the hard drive. I'm still stuck at a "Powered by pc angel system recovery" screen.
I've tried booting to an XP cd with no problems. Since this is something activated by pressing either "r" or "f11" upon booting up, does this been it's built into the BIOS?
Thanks for the info on this emachine, I gather it runs xp then I can offer a suggestions.
Maybe the boot.ini has changed if you can boot to safemode check the boot.ini
often times if a scan was in progress and accessing deep system files for whatever reason if the machine boots during this time it can later the boot.ini.
Also if the video card is unstable often times starting the computer from sfaemode choose start in vga mode can access windows again.
Then re-install the or update the card drivers.
Not sure about the boot process, but set your bios to boot from cd first, puyt the xpcd in the rom and press f10 to save and exit the bios.
then press any key to start setup, you wait till all the stuff is loaded, when it gets to the which windows do you want to install,
normally we put 1 to assign C drive but lets use this cmd prompt to run a chkdsk /r
please type that into the cmd prompt press enter
Hopefully it will repair the windows.
To get more assistance from this cmd prompt simply type in help press enter, it
offers a few cmd prompts.
Otherwise take out the xpcd type in exit and press enter.
Windows will reboot.
Hope this helps.
Regards Merete
(No offense on the Scion vs Toyota, cheap in this case meant less expensive. I am a car guy even more than I am a computer guy)
If R or F11 activates the recovery then it is likely hooked into BIOS into some fashion or a bootstrap on the HDD (likely the latter). Your "Powered by PC Angel" is telling, it leads to these finds:
http://www.senecadata.com/
http://www.senecadata.com/
http://www.senecadata.com/
As well as http://www.pcangelle.com/
My guess is the boot record for the recovery partition has a problem, and as I have no experience with this I cannot predict what a FDISK /MBR would do (my guess is it would cause problems). You might want to contact pcangelle's customer support for this issue.
An update on this situation. So far I have attempted to restore this system using the restore partition on the hard drive, using the owner created restore disks, and now using disks created by emachines which we just received. None of these methods work. Each time I end up at the e logo and "powered by pc angel system recovery".
And again, if I put in a regular XP install disk, everything goes fine up until the part where one can choose to format the drive, etc, at which point I quit. So it boots to disks fine and sees the hard drive. So I'm still searching for answers on this, and I have reviewed the links from above with no solution found.
do you have an xp machine other than this one there?
If your emachine is not laptop, but a desktop, use the cdrom on another machine, the ide and power connectors will fit into the rear of this hdd.
Just move the pin to slave, unpower completely, I just sit the hdd on top of the of the tower, its very easy quick to have a look at partitions on a difficult drive.
xp in control panel administrative tools, computer management disc management, here you can see any and all drives> partitions and what format fat or ntfs linux, hope not.
If you bought this 2nd hand you never know what has been on this hdd.
The advantage too is you can usually save off any stuff onboard. Defrag it chkdsk it etc.
If this hdd has had several old operating system on from years ago there maybe some old standard dos MBR.
The standard DOS MBR will not boot a partition unless it is the unique bootable primary partition.
What does FDISK /MBR do?
People often recommend the undocumented DOS command FDISK /MBR to solve problems with the MBR. This command however does not rewrite the entire MBR - it just rewrites the boot code, the first 446 bytes of the MBR, but leaves the 64-byte partition information alone. Thus, it won't help when the partition table has problems. Moreover, it can be dangerous to restore the boot code to its original state: if the cause of the problems was a boot sector virus, then vital information may have been stored elsewhere by the virus, and killing the virus may mean killing access to this information. (For example, the stoned.empire.monkey virus encrypts the original MBR to sector 0/0/3.) However, people who want to uninstall LILO, and do not know that LILO has a -u option, can use FDISK /MBR for this purpose.
http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb
If your not familiar with windowsxp disc management here is a good illistrated guide to help you see what its about.
http://www.theeldergeek.co
This problem never did get resolved. I've not been able to get past the screen in question even with emachines support on the phone stepping me through their steps. Their next step was to send the guy a new hard drive to replace the one in the pc, but I'm not really sure that would work because I can boot to an xp boot disk and go all the way to the format screen. But it does not matter anymore because the owner of the pc is swapping the pc for another with emachines. Gotta give the company credit for agreeing to do this instead of insisting on sending the hard drive.
I gave Merete the points because of good correct procedures and lots of info, plus sticking with it. Thanks to all.
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by: Bartender_1Posted on 2006-05-01 at 11:39:52ID: 16579449
Have you tried booting into safe mode with networking, and then visiting this site?: o.com
http://housecall.trendmicr
there you should be able to do an online scan, and clean of your system, which should clean up your system enough to install Norton Internet Security.
Once that has been completed, you should be able to work on correcting anything else that may be wrong.
Hope this helps!
:o)
Bartender_1