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No keyboards will work - not even in Safe mode

Asked by: Teresa_B

I have a PC from a customer who spilt coffee on her keyboard and bought a replacement. The replacement worked for a very short time and now no keyboards will work when trying to get into Windows XP Pro - customer has a log on screen.
I can't get into safe mode or safe mode with command prompt because of the llog on screen. I tried Last Known configuration that worked and still no good.
The keyboards do work if I go into BIOS settings. I tried loading them to default settings and still no good.
Customer does not have a copy of Windows XP Pro on disk.

I have a genuine copy - can I use that to do a recovery or something?

Help...please....

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2006-12-27 at 01:08:39ID22103904
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Answers

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 01:11:52ID: 18201561

P.S The mouse still works fine.

I just can't get into Windows because I can't type in username & password because of the keyboards not working.
Also - everytime I try to press anything on keyboard while trying to log on - beeps can be heard from MoBo.

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 01:14:42ID: 18201569

Problem occurs regardless of being a PS2 or USB keyboard

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 01:17:03ID: 18201578

Did u try usb keyboard ?
check to see weather its a keyboard problem or os problem

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 01:17:37ID: 18201580

i didn't refresh
sorry

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 01:18:34ID: 18201583

It's definitely an OS issue

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 01:23:35ID: 18201593

The problem may be in win.ini or the system.ini
Do u have the backup of that file.

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 01:25:45ID: 18201598

Check BIOS to see if it says keyboard is installed, it can be set to Installed or None.

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 01:40:25ID: 18201621

In BIOS for keyboard there is only an option for Auto or Present. I have tried both.
I don't have a backup of either .ini file

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 01:56:37ID: 18201638

Try this
Using the recovery console from the XP install CD, copy the following 5 files from the C:\windows\repair location (the backup files) into C:\windows\system32\conf (the actual location).
Note:Before u proceed backup the five files from the C:\windows\system32\conf
 
               Sam
               Security
               Default
               Software
               System


And see if it works

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 01:58:32ID: 18201642

Does it matter that it's not the same Win XP disk that came with PC?

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 02:00:06ID: 18201643

No probs you just want to go to recovery console

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 02:01:46ID: 18201646

Can I be silly and ask how I'm gonna back up these files when I can't login to Windows?

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 02:09:50ID: 18201653

My dear, put your windows xp cd as first boot device  and go to recovery console
if u don't know how to go to recovery console, follow this steps
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/recovery_run_console.mspx?mfr=true

Hope this help
Best of Luck

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 02:09:57ID: 18201654

I've nevery used recovery console before. Can I get step by step instructions please

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 02:12:52ID: 18201660

Follow the above link

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 02:12:58ID: 18201661

I'm in recovery console but I don't know what to do from there. I'll read Microsoft's steps

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 02:14:54ID: 18201665

do u see windows prompt
c:\windows>

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 02:15:52ID: 18201667

yes I do

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 02:23:39ID: 18201683

ok do this exactly
cd windows \system32\config
mkdir backup
copy Sam   sam.bak
 copy Security  security.bak
copy  Default    default.bak
copy  Software  software.bak
copy  System   system.bak


cd ..
c:\windows\system32\config
copy c:\windows\system32\repair\Sam  c:\windows\system32\config
copy c:\windows\system32\repair\security  c:\windows\system32\security
copy c:\windows\system32\repair\default  c:\windows\system32\default
copy c:\windows\system32\repair\software  c:\windows\system32\software
copy c:\windows\system32\repair\system  c:\windows\system32\system


It will prompt u for overwrite, say yes




 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 02:26:29ID: 18201688

get back to u after lunch

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 03:14:43ID: 18201745

i m back

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 03:39:51ID: 18201780

I was able to back up but when I went to next stage, it says it cannat find the specified file

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 03:49:15ID: 18201799

sorry its
copy c:\windows\repair\Sam  c:\windows\system32\config
copy c:\windows\repair\security  c:\windows\system32\security
copy c:\windows\repair\default  c:\windows\system32\default
copy c:\windows\repair\software  c:\windows\system32\software
copy c:\windows\repair\system  c:\windows\system32\system

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 04:40:56ID: 18201907

all seemed to go ok except the last one - system. It says it cannot find the specified file

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 05:01:54ID: 18201971

May be that file is hidden.Do this
c:\windows\repair>dir/ah
c:\windows\repair>attrib -R -A -S -H system
c:\windows\repair>dir
system file should be there

 

by: dsnegi_25decPosted on 2006-12-27 at 05:07:44ID: 18201986

can u let me know, what is the make of ur keyboard and model number

 

by: imadimadPosted on 2006-12-27 at 13:55:12ID: 18204979

Hi,
Make a repair installation using your CD. This option is available after you press F8 when you run Windows XP setup from the CD.

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 14:54:44ID: 18205290

it doesn't matter what keyboard is connected. I've tried about 3 or 4 different ones. PS2 and USB

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 15:11:00ID: 18205350

c:\windows\repair>dir/ah
c:\windows\repair>attrib -R -A -S -H system
c:\windows\repair>dir

These commands weren't recognised.

 

by: riteheerPosted on 2006-12-27 at 21:25:00ID: 18206453

Howdy Teresa_B
Forgive me if this sounds like a dumb question, but you are completely powering off the system when unplugging keyboard and plugging back in? Have you tried killing power to the system completely?  I mean unplug it from the wall, and then plug in new keyboard.

Happy New Year!
Jappo
Any questions, just Holler! It's how we communicate in the mountains <smile>

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 21:39:30ID: 18206481

Have u shared any drive or folder on this pc before?If yes, than boot ur faulty pc to normal mode.Go to other pc. Copy the system file from other pc and paste it in the shared drive of faulty pc.Than reboot ur faulty pc to recovery console and copy system file from the shared folder to c:\windows\system\config

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 21:55:07ID: 18206515

Thanks for tips so far but I have completely powered off PC - transferring from customer's house to mine.

I can't log in to Windows XP Pro because of keyboard.

But now...

I had started following instruction from ibu1 regarding using recovery console but the list of instructions has stopped - probably due to time zones etc.
But I'm halfway thru process of repairing system files but I don't know what to do. See above coz that's where I get stuck. ibu1 I've never shared files or drive on this PC before.

PC now comes up with Security Analysis error lsass.exe because of faulty device Windows can't start - try Safe mode. But when I try safe mode the same message appears. Probably because I need to repair files.
This is getting messy - maybe I'm better off formatting hard drive... :(

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 23:15:59ID: 18206705

That error came coz system file still not repaired.The only option left is  to repair windows.Repair windows is equal to reinstall windows.Remember,it will remove all program from ur pc.As u r new, the below link will show u the visual aid for how to repair windows
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
Search the word "How to Repair Install" in this windows

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-27 at 23:21:42ID: 18206723

I keep getting BSOD now. I've tried putting in boot disks but because the system/config files are corrupt or missing - nothing works. I'm not even sure how I can format hard drive as my easiest option.

Nothing works.

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2006-12-27 at 23:48:37ID: 18206786

This document guide u how to format hard-disk and install windows xp
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313348

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2006-12-28 at 00:31:48ID: 18206914

Sorry ibu1 but none of that helps me.

keep getting BSOD now. I've tried putting in boot disks but because the system/config files are corrupt or missing - nothing works. I'm not even sure how I can format hard drive as my easiest option

 

by: riteheerPosted on 2006-12-28 at 17:18:08ID: 18211873

Assuming you have pc set to boot to cd, you should be able to boot to xp cd, and run setup, it will give you the option to delete the partition, which you want to do, then after deleting the partition you can recreate one in the unpartitioned space, and windows will format it for you, use ntfs, and I recommend not doing quick format.
These instructions assume that you have backed up any data you don't want to lose first?
If not stop, backup, if you need help holler.
Jappo

 

by: HypercubeTechPosted on 2006-12-29 at 21:35:55ID: 18218049

Try the USB kb

 

by: ibu1Posted on 2007-01-01 at 04:59:43ID: 18223639

Make ur cd as first boot device and proceed with format

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2007-01-24 at 05:22:33ID: 18385337

I ended up using killdisk to format hard drive because of instructions weren't exactly accurate and affected system files.

 

by: Teresa_BPosted on 2007-01-24 at 05:25:31ID: 18385349

You can delete this since the suggestions given to help resolve my problem.

 

by: rindiPosted on 2007-01-24 at 06:39:55ID: 18385930

Please follow the instructions in the link I've posted above, it explains how to properly close this Q.

Thanks.

 

by: rindiPosted on 2007-02-02 at 09:03:03ID: 18453967

Teresa_B

Have you followed the instructions for closing this Q?

Thanks,
rindi,
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by: Computer101Posted on 2007-03-04 at 18:06:21ID: 18652127

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