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Server 2003 Missing Seurity Tab on Files

Asked by: Igore65

I have a Server in a remte location, and on folder on that server has Files that are missing the Security and Custom Tab in the Properties of the files.  If I try to 'replace permission entries ...' from the advanced security settings page, I get access denied.

Any thoughts?

Thanx

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2007-01-22 at 05:41:01ID22131407
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Answers

 

by: sirbountyPosted on 2007-01-22 at 05:42:33ID: 18364986

This 'is' on an NTFS volume, correct?

Have you tried using cacls?

For example, if the files are in C:\Folder

Start->Run->Cmd /k cacls c:\folder /e /t /g everyone:f

will add everyone with full control to the files/subfolders beneath C:\Folder

 

by: Phadke_hemantPosted on 2007-01-22 at 05:49:38ID: 18365045

go to windows explorer - tools -folder options - view - scroll down to last line and remove (uncheck) use simple file sharing and click OK. then check.
NTFS permissions are valid for only NTFS formatted drive and not for FAT file system as stated by sirbounty

 

by: bigjimbo813Posted on 2007-01-22 at 05:54:07ID: 18365085

Phadke_hemant's solution works with Windows XP.

As stated above verify that the system is NTFS and not FAT/FAT32. Another solution is you do not have administrative rights on that box and therefore cannot access it. Some policies can also hide that tab from non-administrators.

 

by: Igore65Posted on 2007-01-22 at 06:11:53ID: 18365218

OK...Let me be more specific.... This is the Server not a wkstn we are talking about.  Yes, it is NTFS.  I am loggged on locally to that server as an admin....  One folder has files in it with Security Tab and the files in the next folder down at the same level of the Folder structure has no Security tab....


Igore

 

by: sirbountyPosted on 2007-01-22 at 06:14:24ID: 18365239

Have you tried taking ownership?

Right-click the parent folder, choose properties, security tab, advanced, owner tab...remember to check the 'replace on all child objects' box...

 

by: Igore65Posted on 2007-01-22 at 06:52:56ID: 18365570

I have tried taking Ownership of it...Access denied.  I have added the user that I am logged on as to the specific list of users (rather than counting on Group Membership...  Granted that user full control, logged off and on again and tried replacing permissions and taking ownership again...Access Denied.

 

by: bigjimbo813Posted on 2007-01-22 at 07:17:23ID: 18365744

Can you go to the parent directory and under advanced security make the appropriate permissions and check "Replace permission entries on all child objects with entries...."

 

by: Igore65Posted on 2007-01-22 at 07:20:29ID: 18365770

Have tried that...Access denied...

 

by: bigjimbo813Posted on 2007-01-22 at 07:25:40ID: 18365809

How about through safe mode?

 

by: Igore65Posted on 2007-01-22 at 07:27:22ID: 18365827

You mean reboot and logon in safe mode?  

 

by: bigjimbo813Posted on 2007-01-22 at 07:32:05ID: 18365879

aghh you wont be able to do that from a remote location. You will have to have someone select the option for you.

 

by: bigjimbo813Posted on 2007-01-22 at 07:35:56ID: 18365918

look into this...

http://www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/microsoft.public.windows.server.security/2005-12/msg00007.html


I am about to leave this site for an hour or so. I will follow up once I return.

 

by: bigjimbo813Posted on 2007-01-22 at 10:19:10ID: 18367461

Any luck?

 

by: skottkePosted on 2007-01-22 at 14:22:14ID: 18370144

If you do not see the security tab on a folder it is because you do not have rights at that level to set the security. See if you can log on with the local admin account not a network admin account. If you can get in with the local admin account see if you can she the security tab on the folder in question. See if a group you belong to has been denied access at that level. Adjust security as necessary.

 

by: Igore65Posted on 2007-01-22 at 17:02:05ID: 18371493

I am logged in as a Network Admin....  I can see the Security tab on all other folders that Ihave checked.  Someone has mucked with the permissions, but I cannot see what has been changed as the ACL's look the same as they are for the folders that I can see the Security tab for...

 

by: sirbountyPosted on 2007-01-22 at 17:03:59ID: 18371506

Did you try my cacls suggestion from earlier?

 

by: bigjimbo813Posted on 2007-01-23 at 06:29:15ID: 18374911

oops, i read up at sirbounty's suggestion and I said the same thing...ooops...

Can you have someone log onto the machine locally and perform the same steps?

 

by: skottkePosted on 2007-01-23 at 08:09:32ID: 18375798

It doesn't matter that you are logged in as a Network Admin. You can be specifically denied access at any level. If you cannot see the security tab then you have been denied that right at that level. I still suggest trying to log into the system with the local admin account checking the rights of the folder in question.

 

by: Computer101Posted on 2008-03-24 at 14:29:41ID: 21197114

Forced accept.

Computer101
EE Admin

 

by: BrianSimpsonPosted on 2009-01-27 at 12:10:47ID: 23480549

The issue as I've seen it on W2K3 seems to come in mostly on folders that are accessed by Macintish computers, though that may just be a coincidence.

The only work around that I have found for this issue is to copy the contents of the folder to another, similarly-named folder and have the users access that in the future.

 

by: BakerSydPosted on 2010-12-16 at 19:37:39ID: 34374827

im experiencing exactly this problem

we have a file on a network share that cannot be accessed, copied, deleted nothing.

i cannot take ownership, i cannot force security to be copied onto the file.
ive tried cacls, but that just says access denied.

win 2003 server
NTFS partition
logged on as my admin account and tried the local server admin account as well.


all other shares and file security is ok, so its something to do with this file.

ive tried all solutions and thoughts in this thread but nothing worked

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