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winxp service boot order

Asked by: simongod

what is the boot order for windows services?  i have a wireless nic and a service that accesses the internet before the nic can use its static ip address, any thoughts?  this service is designed by me using c#.  on a wired nic computer the service works fine.  so i think on the wireless nic computers my service is starting before a required wireless service starts.  i want to keep this universal between wired and wireless nics and not have to install my service differently for wired and wireless.  having the boot order for winxp services should help me fix my problem, hopefully!

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Answers

 

by: leewPosted on 2007-02-09 at 18:24:56ID: 18505802

Just make your service depend on an appropriate network service - it won't start until the dependency has started

 

by: simongodPosted on 2007-02-09 at 18:30:42ID: 18505811

but which one? the "Wireless Zero Configuration" is not what i am looking for because its required on one but not the other, something universal.

 

by: leewPosted on 2007-02-09 at 18:47:25ID: 18505854

Actually, I'd probably suggest writing it differently because networking can be easily turned on and off.  Have it test for an internet connection first and if not found, sleep for 60 seconds or something like that.

 

by: simongodPosted on 2007-02-09 at 20:06:50ID: 18506019

networking is always on in this case, which service should i depend on? actually my initial question is still the only real one i need answered, what is the boot order of windows services?

 

by: leewPosted on 2007-02-09 at 20:13:58ID: 18506030

If networking was always on, then you wouldn't be having this problem.  You are waiting for networking to be available.

see Table 29-3 here:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c29621675.mspx

 

by: bntsoPosted on 2007-02-10 at 05:16:00ID: 18506934

I am not sure if this is what you are looking for but the order services are loades is in the registry under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\ServiceGroupOrder

My XP system has the following list:
System Reserved
Boot Bus Extender
System Bus Extender
SCSI miniport
Port
Primary Disk
SCSI Class
SCSI CDROM Class
FSFilter Infrastructure
FSFilter System
FSFilter Bottom
FSFilter Copy Protection
FSFilter Security Enhancer
FSFilter Open File
FSFilter Physical Quota Management
FSFilter Encryption
FSFilter Compression
FSFilter HSM
FSFilter Cluster File System
FSFilter System Recovery
FSFilter Quota Management
FSFilter Content Screener
FSFilter Continuous Backup
FSFilter Replication
FSFilter Anti-Virus
FSFilter Undelete
FSFilter Activity Monitor
FSFilter Top
Filter
Boot File System
Base
Pointer Port
Keyboard Port
Pointer Class
Keyboard Class
Video Init
Video
Video Save
File System
Event Log
Streams Drivers
NDIS Wrapper
COM Infrastructure
UIGroup
LocalValidation
PlugPlay
PNP_TDI
NDIS
TDI
NetBIOSGroup
ShellSvcGroup
SchedulerGroup
SpoolerGroup
AudioGroup
SmartCardGroup
NetworkProvider
RemoteValidation
NetDDEGroup
Parallel arbitrator
Extended Base
PCI Configuration
MS Transactions


Hope this helps.

 

by: simongodPosted on 2007-02-10 at 06:28:22ID: 18507136

the ServiceGroupOrder helps me how?  what exactly is this listing that you have sent me? is each entry a grouping of services?

table 29-3 doesnt really help me, unless i missed something?

 

by: bntsoPosted on 2007-02-10 at 06:43:10ID: 18507173

You asked the boot order of windows services. Windows services belong to a Service Group and Service Groups are loaded in the order posted in previous message. As you so clearly put it in one of your replies all you need is the boot order of windows services. Well this hoe you find out in which order the services are loaded when you boot your windows xp machine. First item on the list loads first, last item on the list loads last. You can change the order in which services are loaded by changing the order of the list or by changing the ServiceGroup a service belongs to. Here is something from Microsoft on the subject:
Description

The ServiceGroupOrder subkey contains a list of all service groups in the order in which the groups are loaded.

Tip
• To determine the service group to which a service belongs, find the value of its Group entry.
• To find all services in a service group, use the registry editor Regedit.exe. On the Edit menu, click Find, type the name of the service group, and then select only the Data check box.

I believe your original question is answered but if you meant something else then please clarify and I will try to answer it.

 

by: bntsoPosted on 2007-02-10 at 07:01:08ID: 18507228

A bit more on ServiceGroups and GroupOrder from Microsoft.

 HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control
Description

This subkey stores the order in which services in a service group are loaded when the system starts.

Services in a service group are assigned a tag. A tag is a numeric value that is unique within a service group. When the system loads a service group, it loads the services in the order in which their tags appear in the GroupOrderList entry for that service group.

Each entry in the GroupOrderList subkey represents a service group. The value of the entry contains the number of tags, followed by a series of tags in a specified order. All entries have the same format:

Service group name
      

REG_BINARY
      

Number of tags Tag [Tag ...]

For example,

PointerPort
      

REG_BINARY
      

030000000200000001000000030000000

The value in this example determines the order in which the three services in the PointerPort service group are loaded. The first significant digit (3) indicates that the value of the entry contains three tags. The remaining significant digits (2, 1, and 3) indicate that the service assigned tag 2 will load first in that group, followed by the service assigned tag 1, and then the service assigned tag 3.

Tip
•      

To find the services in any service group, use the registry editor Regedit.exe to open HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services. On the Edit menu, click Find, type the name of the service group, and select only the Data check box. Press F3 to find other services in the service group.
•      

To find the service group and tag number of any service, open the subkey representing the service in \CurrentControlSet\Services. Click Group to find its service group, and click Tag to find its tag number.

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