Barthax
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Clustering or enabling HA with a Windows SBS 2003 Server
Hi all,
I have a customer that is requesting to get a second server installation to perform some form of clustering or HA either on the machine as a whole or for individual services. The machine is currently running MS Windows 2003 SBS Server. At the moment I'm trying to get a firm grip of real possibilities there are on the market and am not limiting myself to purely MS solutions: for example, I have already considered a Linux-based disc mirror + HA failover with some form of virtual machine running the SBS off the disc mirror. So I am looking for firm solutions and not ideas on what is possible.
I have a customer that is requesting to get a second server installation to perform some form of clustering or HA either on the machine as a whole or for individual services. The machine is currently running MS Windows 2003 SBS Server. At the moment I'm trying to get a firm grip of real possibilities there are on the market and am not limiting myself to purely MS solutions: for example, I have already considered a Linux-based disc mirror + HA failover with some form of virtual machine running the SBS off the disc mirror. So I am looking for firm solutions and not ideas on what is possible.
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Bacically - None. You can use a software or hardware RAID and that is about it. SBS is not designed for this sort of environment. If your customer isn't prepared to pay for an HA system the he will have to go without.
Barthax,
Have you considered VMware? You could create a 2 server VMcluster and run the SBS as a VM.
This would give you hardware redundance as the VM could be moved accross the 2 host.
NOTE: VMWare will automaticly restart a fail server VM on the same machine or anther machine but this is not the same as MSC, Microsoft Cluster Service. The main issue is that MCS will fail and move a service, such as you Exchange information store servcie were VMware will only do the complete server VM.
That is a very high level example but should get you going in the correct direction.
Kelo
Have you considered VMware? You could create a 2 server VMcluster and run the SBS as a VM.
This would give you hardware redundance as the VM could be moved accross the 2 host.
NOTE: VMWare will automaticly restart a fail server VM on the same machine or anther machine but this is not the same as MSC, Microsoft Cluster Service. The main issue is that MCS will fail and move a service, such as you Exchange information store servcie were VMware will only do the complete server VM.
That is a very high level example but should get you going in the correct direction.
Kelo
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Kelo: does the VMcluster support atom writes to the disc?
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Hi Kelo,
You've answered my question indirectly. By "atom writes" I mean, any issue of a write command to the disc: any irreducible write gets written to the cluster. The answer is a simple "no", from what I read: you are using a SAN & the disc images are not mirrored between the machines. In your set up (if I read correctly) the fail-over VM just picks up the same physical disc image from the SAN & continues where the other VM left off, is that correct?
Yes, you are correct in that a SAN-based set up is too expensive for this customer.
Thanks all - I believe you have explained the reason I can't find this solution: it doesn't exist. :D
So, I return to my original vision: a pair of linux boxes with an shared NDB disc mirror... then run VMWare on top. Rudimentary but feasible.
You've answered my question indirectly. By "atom writes" I mean, any issue of a write command to the disc: any irreducible write gets written to the cluster. The answer is a simple "no", from what I read: you are using a SAN & the disc images are not mirrored between the machines. In your set up (if I read correctly) the fail-over VM just picks up the same physical disc image from the SAN & continues where the other VM left off, is that correct?
Yes, you are correct in that a SAN-based set up is too expensive for this customer.
Thanks all - I believe you have explained the reason I can't find this solution: it doesn't exist. :D
So, I return to my original vision: a pair of linux boxes with an shared NDB disc mirror... then run VMWare on top. Rudimentary but feasible.
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