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What are the main advantages of using FreeBSD instead of Windows?

Asked by: hermesalpha

What are the main advantages of using FreeBSD instead of Windows? I'm not a very technical person, but during the two years I've owned my laptop with Windows Vista and Windows XP Pro installed, I have experienced so many problems with Windows (Vista in particular).

The way I use my laptop is to learn languages, and to have online classes using video conferencing, and for professional translations. So I also need to look up a lot of information on the internet, using search engines. There are a lot of software and electronic dictionaries that I also use under Windows.

So I wonder, to what extent can I use FreeBSD instead of Windows, keeping my areas of uses in mind?
For instance, all the softwares I run under Windows, is there any way to run them under FreeBSD instead?

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by: cyberstalkerPosted on 2009-07-23 at 02:58:35ID: 24923341

Can you tell me if there is any particular reason you are looking at FreeBSD specifically as an alternative to Windows?

I am asking this because there are many different flavors of UNIX/Linux out there, all with a lot of similarities, but also with their different goals and a completely different user experience.

For example, if you are just looking at BSD, there are many variants. The major ones you can find at http://www.bsd.org/

If you are looking at linux as well, there are litterally thousands of distributions out there.

Every operating system out there allows you to browse the web, so using search engines is definitely not going to be a problem. Using the software you use now on Windows may or may not work. There is a program called Wine which allows you to run Windows software on UNIX/Linux. However, this program is not perfect and not all software works correctly in this.

At http://appdb.winehq.org/ you can see if the program is listed and if so, whether it is supported.

If this proves difficult, can you post a list of programs you use, and I can look for you whether they will work.

 

by: gheistPosted on 2009-08-11 at 04:40:43ID: 25067864

FreeBSD has no solid power management, especially lacks support for hibernation to disk.
It also does not have much for video conferencing.
Firefox and Opera are both available. IE requires trickery with wine emulator.
Stardict is included, others run or not via wine.

Actually i would propose Linux instead - it has hibernation to disk, fairly complete webcam support like for skype, same browsers as FreeBSD and Flash is not crashing them, it automatically mounts USB flash sticks without enormous effort like in *BSD. 32bit version better than 64bit - but if you have huge disk and RAM >2G you can choose to take this adventure.

You can run some LiveCD of Linux - like Mandriva One, OpenSUSE or Ubuntu to check out how well it does (you can install lots of software in its ramdisk, or run pieces from your hard disk)

What will be initial confusion - there is no C: D: E: etc, all files are in same unified namespace.

 

by: stephenhoekstraPosted on 2009-08-15 at 04:51:24ID: 25105058

While FreeBSD does work great, I believe it's better for servers and linux a better alternative for clients as the hardware support is generally better.

The most important factor in choosing what to use is hardware support.  Check your hardware is fully supported by FreeBSD before deciding to go with it.

I use Gentoo on my Thinkpad and everything runs no hassle.  There were some teething issues at first but all is great now.  Your best bet is to try the Ubuntu livecd as stated above, as I found it is best for support out the box.  You boot up and everything just works !  If you decide to then go with it, you just click the install icon on the desktop.  While Gentoo is my distro of choice and love it, Ubuntu or Kubuntu would be the best choice for someone new to linux IMHO.

 

by: stephenhoekstraPosted on 2009-08-15 at 04:56:52ID: 25105067

Forgot to mention CrossOver Linux (www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice) which runs win32 applications fairly reliably, better than Wine IMHO... but at the same time, Wine is free, this is not.  I use MS Office 2007 and a couple of other Windows programs without hassle.

 

by: gheistPosted on 2009-08-15 at 08:47:59ID: 25105805

Basically you need to learn how to operate your new system beforehand.
PC-BSD will be more like desktop with icons and OpenOffice.org, mainline FreeBSD will be more like "minimal install" where you should download all the graphics components. For Linux youu will almost always get running graphics from default install.

 

by: hermesalphaPosted on 2009-08-19 at 10:22:38ID: 25135092

I forgot to mention that besides wanting a more stable operative system that works well with my video conferences, I also want to learn programming (C++, html, DreamWeaver, etc.). And to have a safer environment when surfing on WWW.

 

by: gheistPosted on 2009-08-19 at 12:43:22ID: 25136532

Then Linux:
http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity

I'd stay away from Fedora - it sometimes breaks stuff etc.
I would choose KDE&RPM distributions - OpenSUSE or Mandriva
I cannot make judgements on Mint - never used it
Ubuntu is in ugly colour

Dreamweaver here (check all your apps same way):
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14343

 

by: hermesalphaPosted on 2009-08-22 at 13:01:45ID: 25160012

Mandriva seems to have a nice interface. I think I will choose Mandriva or openSUSE (or maybe Debian, but I don't know if it's suitable for my purposes).

If I install the LInux (whichever distribution it will be) on my netbook ASUS Eee 1000He, together with Windows XP Pro SP2, and make 3 partitions, how large should I make each partition? My HDD is 250 GB, and it's an Intel Atom processor in my netbook.

It doesn't matter which Linux-distribution it is and how large I make the partition, does it? And can I use a dual boot (Linux + Windows) whichever distribution I choose?

If I will study Information Technology and also programming in about 6 months time, can I continue using the same Linux-distribution (Mandriva etc) for newbies? Or would I need to change distribution to a more advanced distribution, like Gentoo?

 

by: cyberstalkerPosted on 2009-08-22 at 13:12:49ID: 25160056

If you are a complete newbie, I can definitely recommend you ubuntu. It is targeted to people who are not familiar with operating a computer. Personally, I swear by gentoo, since it allows me the most finegrained control. The downside to this is that it takes much more work to set up and maintain.

It is never necessarily to switch distributions. However, if you want to keep that option open I would suggest that you make at least a separate /home partition. This will allow you to reinstall another distribution without needing to backup/lose all your files.

Dualboot is absolutely possible and even very easy. Most distributions automatically detect windows and set up an entry in the bootloader. One warning though, Windows is, as usual, not very cooperative, so you need to set up Windows first, and then install linux, otherwise Windows will overwrite your bootloader.

 

by: stephenhoekstraPosted on 2009-08-22 at 15:28:24ID: 25160505

20gb is a fair amount to get you going for your first time.  I used Linux and 2 other operating sytems on my work laptop and primarily used Linux for day to day stuff and 20gb was sufficient.. even with X Windows installed and MS Office.  You can always use something like GParted to resize the partition at a later stage if the need arises.  

You may want to use 30gb as I use Gentoo which starts as a really minimum install (and customizable support when building, resulting in smaller package installs).  It's not bad to maintain but it can be painful for a person new to Linux to install it.

The above suggestion of mounting of /home on a separate partition is a great idea.  I kept most of my stuff on my Windows partition as Linux reads NTFS great using ntfs-3g.  Simarily, you can install ext3 support for Windows to access your Linux partition.

 

by: gheistPosted on 2009-08-23 at 11:13:10ID: 25163585

Virtualisation is another solution.
I would suggest Mandriva as base system and XP as virtual machine in virtualbox which is not exactly included in system (you need one from SUN which has seamless desk integration)

 

by: gheistPosted on 2009-08-23 at 11:14:01ID: 25163588

PS this way you can keep system running for years, not rebooting every day 5 times.

 

by: hermesalphaPosted on 2009-09-01 at 08:14:26ID: 25232411

So far, I've just installed Windows XP on 2 partitions, each 80 GB.

As I'm a newbie to Linux, maybe Ubuntu would be the best option to start with. But what about Debian? Read somewhere it should be the safest Linux out there. But maybe it's not for a beginner like me? And maybe it's more for servers and not for Windows?

 

by: gheistPosted on 2009-09-01 at 11:56:32ID: 25234754

Debian is for punks.
Resize your XP to take full disk and install one virtual machine (virtualbox has best desktop intermixing) with opensuse, one with mandriva one and another with ubuntu desktop LTS, and another with mint 10G disk and 1G RAM is fine for either)
Try to break all of them
Last who stays is your choice for future.
Now you should feel heroic:
Resize XP down using Linux
Install Linux of your choice
Move XP now into virtual machine inside Linux

Hope these excersizes will improve your newbie attitude.

 

by: gheistPosted on 2009-09-01 at 12:04:45ID: 25234827

PS with modern virtualization technologies it is fast
PPS i could use SuSE for its green/orange crocodiles, but for now I am stuck with Mandriva.

 

by: RBEIMSPosted on 2009-10-02 at 02:57:58ID: 25476394

If you have particular interest in the *BSD world, or want to understand how the thing *really* work in Linux / servers, then you should give Slackware a try. This is a linux distribution with the closest BSD system of all. The distribution is purposefully created to give extreme control to the user.
I should warn you that this power doesn't come easy: You will need to learn *a lot* before you can start doing things. But in the process you will get the best knowledge of the basis of the systems that you could get.
Anyway, just my 2 cents...
http://www.slackware.com

If you enter this journey, It would be really good to read this, as it explains the philosophy behind the operating system and gets you started with a lot of things:
http://www.slackware.com/book/

 

by: stephenhoekstraPosted on 2009-10-02 at 05:01:40ID: 25477025

Slackware is bit of an antequated distro IMHO and not as well maintained as others are.  I would go against recommending a distro to a newbie that doesn't even have a package system that properly tracks dependencies.  It's probably the quickest way to put someone off Linux as they'll have to keep referring to google.

 

by: RBEIMSPosted on 2009-10-02 at 06:33:17ID: 25477673

As I said, if you *really* want to learn how things work, that's the way to go... Sorry, but there are no shortcuts, it will be hard, but in the end the knowledge you gain is worth the effort (for some people, at least).
As for outdated and not maintained:
http://www.slackware.com/announce/13.0.php

The packages included are pretty up to date, and they keep a close look at security bugs too:
http://www.slackware.com/security/list.php?l=slackware-security&y=2009

I don't want to start a discussion here, I just thought that Slackware is interesting for someone that wants to know and control every little detail of their system.
And as I mentioned, I think that this is the closest you can get of the real *BSD systems in the linux world.

 

by: hermesalphaPosted on 2009-11-02 at 03:14:46ID: 31606877

Thanks everyone, many suggestions and detailed info, I will try this

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