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Guide to add real memory at Solaris

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I am doing Capacity Planning for Solaris. What is the guide line to add real memory for Solaris 9 environment.? What is the recommended tools to collect performance data such as vmstat and sar? Any comment is appreciated.

Thanks in Advance
cpc2004

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Answers

 

by: yuzhPosted on 2006-01-16 at 17:46:17ID: 15716295


When you system use swap a lot, you need to add more RAM to get better
performance.

when the system has heavy load run:
swap -l

man swap.

Have a look at this Solaris performance FAQ:
http://www.itworld.com/Comp/3380/UIR010329cockcroftletters/

Some commandline tools:
http:Q_20906790.html#10513520

If you need more help, please post more details about your hardward and applications. eg, what type of Sun box it is and what applications are running
on the box.

 

by: cpc2004Posted on 2006-01-17 at 20:08:41ID: 15725841

Our company guide for paging rate of Solaris 100-200 per second is warning and over 200 per second is critical. This standard was defined three years ago.  As you know the Solaris hardware is more powerful and what is latest guide line to increase RAM base upon the paging rate?

 

by: cpc2004Posted on 2006-01-17 at 20:09:33ID: 15725847

Most of our Solaris Server is V240 with 8GB real memory.

 

by: yuzhPosted on 2006-01-17 at 21:34:28ID: 15726196

you can setup "sar" --  system activity reporter to collect some data about your box.

You can put something like the following in the crontab:

5,35 * * * * /usr/lib/sa/sa1 >/dev/null 2>&1

use need to login as root or su as root, then type in:

EDITOR=vi
export EDITOR
ccrontab -e

in vi mode, add
5,35 * * * * /usr/lib/sa/sa1 >/dev/null 2>&1

save and exit from vi

man crontab
man sar
to learn more details.

also have a look at "How to set up sar":

http://www.sarcheck.com/sarhowto.htm

man sar
to learn more details.

please have a look at:
"Memory and swapping":
http://www.princeton.edu/~psg/unix/solaris/troubleshoot/ram.html#paging

"sar":
http://www.princeton.edu/~psg/unix/solaris/troubleshoot/sar.html

>>Most of our Solaris Server is V240 with 8GB real memory.

the V240 can have 8 GB RAM maximum !

If your system is doing  a lot of swap, you need to upgrade to better servers.
In most case, your boxes should be ok, it depends on what's running on the boxes.


 

by: cpc2004Posted on 2006-01-18 at 01:56:46ID: 15727207

Hi yuzh,

Thanks for your reply. I am asking for the the interpretation of the paging rate and not how to collect performance data. Is paging rate 200 page/sec still the guideline of critical paging? If you provide the webpage or link to discuss this issue, you will get the points.

cpc2004

 

by: yuzhPosted on 2006-01-18 at 23:22:35ID: 15736869

Paging rate - Number of pages read to physical memory or written to pagefile(s), per second.
Page-in rate - Number of pages read to physical memory, per second.
Page-out rate - Number of pages written to pagefile(s) and removed from physical memory, per second


Please have a look at this "Understand Solaris Filesystems & Paging":
http://research.sun.com/techrep/1998/smli_tr-98-55.pdf

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/spt2/chapter/ch04.html

"Solaris memory troubleshooting and Tuning"
http://www.sunhelpdesk.com/node/12

and
"Solaris 8 Memory Architecture"
http://developers.sun.com/solaris/articles/sol8memory.html

http://sysunconfig.net/unixtips/solaris.html#paging

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2002/05/30/paging.html

 

by: NukfrorPosted on 2006-02-14 at 20:48:36ID: 15957775

Paging in/out is normal on a Solaris system.  If you edit a file in vi, you'll get page ins.  When you write the file, you'll get page outs.  Its just how things work.

If you are worried about virtual memory you should be worried about the scan rate (sr column in vmstat) and the SO/SI (pages swapped outs / pages swapped ins) columns in "vmstat -s". SO/SI should always be 0.  You don't want to swap - well, you shouldn't want to swap.

 

by: cpc2004Posted on 2006-02-14 at 21:07:36ID: 15957839

Hi Nukfror,

In our installation we have a lot of unix servers, I want to set up a rule to determine whether the server requires additional memory. If paging rate or the value of SR is low , it is no need to add new ram. Do you any recommendation what is the threshold value of the paging rate and SR? I have the performance guideline which was 5 years old and the paging-out rate is 200 pages/sec and we have to add new ram.  As you know, the I/O of the hard disk is much faster than 5 years old. I want to know the new paging rate for Solaris V240 and V480.

 

by: cpc2004Posted on 2006-02-28 at 22:00:34ID: 16072711

Any more new thought? If no more, I will close the problem within 3 days and award the points to the best answer.

 

by: cpc2004Posted on 2006-03-10 at 18:15:52ID: 16160795

Although the answer is not what I expect. I appreciate the help both from Nukfror and yuzh. I make a mistake to accept the answer for Nukfror only. I have to find out how to split the points for yuzh.

cpc2004

 

by: cpc2004Posted on 2006-03-10 at 18:17:58ID: 16160803

Hi yuzh,

What is the procedure to re-split the points?

cpc2004

 

by: yuzhPosted on 2006-03-10 at 21:43:26ID: 16161601


>What is the procedure to re-split the points?
 
Please read the instruction in the following page to learn how
to split the points:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/help.jsp#hi69

I'll re-open this question so that you can split the points.

Have a nice weekend to all of you, cheers!

    yuzh

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