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Dual Hard Drive (switched) Multi-Boot on 2nd Drive Can't Hook ME/98
I've setup a Dual hard drive system with a switch (toggle) that forces either drive to become the master. On the first drive I have XP Pro and 3 empty partitions. On the second drive I've install Win98; Win98SE; WinME; Win2000Server; XPHome; XPPro; Linux;- Installation was in that order, (I had all partitions Fat32 except Linux) XPPro being the last install went into the first partition (Primary) which at install was converted to NTFS as was XPHome in the 1st extended logical partition. When toggled to the 1st HD, XPPro(1) boots normally shows all partitions except Linux in Explorer. When toggled to the second HD, the linux boot manager offers itself and a single windows option. I've already managed to edit the XPPro(2) boot.ini file so that when windows is selected for the Linux loader, it goes into a selection screen showing my 6 windows options. My Boot.ini is as follows:
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdi
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)par
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)par
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)par
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)par
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)par
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)par
Note: Because of the toggle this 2nd HD does become the primary.
Everything works properly when I select any of the first 3 options, but when I select any of the last 3 options I receive a "Windows is unable to start because the following file is corrupt or cannot be found: <windows-root>\system32\ha
Keep in mind, I've looked around the web myself, Microsoft.com; Here; ect.. So links and pastes to/from articles (unless they're concise) and obvious don't cut it.
If someone can correct the path, or instruct clearly as to what files (and where) need to be replace (and where) to properly hook the older OSs listed without doing reinstalls, before I figure it out myself, you can have 250 points. Available assets include ghost images of each OS after install, 2 other systems, the original CDs, a wheel barrel, and a holocaust cloak. I have BootMagic and other tools but not thinking they'll automatically find my missing ME and 98 installs. I'm not opposed to doing clean installs on the other systems to recover files, but prefer not to. If your courious, I want the multiple OS setup to test update/optimization tools I'm working on. Sooner the better, and I'm not concerned about the Linux install, I can put that on another box.
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdi
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)par
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)par
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)par
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)par
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)par
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)par
Note: Because of the toggle this 2nd HD does become the primary.
Everything works properly when I select any of the first 3 options, but when I select any of the last 3 options I receive a "Windows is unable to start because the following file is corrupt or cannot be found: <windows-root>\system32\ha
Keep in mind, I've looked around the web myself, Microsoft.com; Here; ect.. So links and pastes to/from articles (unless they're concise) and obvious don't cut it.
If someone can correct the path, or instruct clearly as to what files (and where) need to be replace (and where) to properly hook the older OSs listed without doing reinstalls, before I figure it out myself, you can have 250 points. Available assets include ghost images of each OS after install, 2 other systems, the original CDs, a wheel barrel, and a holocaust cloak. I have BootMagic and other tools but not thinking they'll automatically find my missing ME and 98 installs. I'm not opposed to doing clean installs on the other systems to recover files, but prefer not to. If your courious, I want the multiple OS setup to test update/optimization tools I'm working on. Sooner the better, and I'm not concerned about the Linux install, I can put that on another box.
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Secondaly if I am understanding this correctly you have these Windows OS's on the some disk and different partitions. Because ME and 98 use some of the some bootfiles I think you will need to use a third party Boot Manager like Boot Magic the you mentioned.
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oh cool you have a switch that works too hehe but i still prefer the Raid BIOS because you can choose from 4 different harddrives also if win2k bothers you about linux partition use Partition Magic to make the partition table i had linux Mandrake working on the same HD where win2k resides and worked fine but i had problems when i put it on the other drive Im not sure about ME but win98se didn't care for the linux partition
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What do say James (trekie1) how are you doing?
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Well i'm feeling that I'm not gonna get away with a simple fix. Had hoped when booting into the second HD I could have simple menu access to all OS be it provided by Linux, Windows or Boot Magic.
It also does'nt look as though I can get there from here.
So I'm willing to do a complete wipe and re-install of all OS. So I'm altering the challenge. First Can I get all OSs to work on one HD without having to hide and unhide them with partition magic, at least after install (during is fine). Will BootMagic handle this if nessary?
I'm after a Step by Step guide to getting Win98; Win98SE; WinME; Win2000Server; XPHome; XPPro; and perferable Linux on one HD. I want to have at least XPHome in NTFS even if converted after the completed setup.
I know most of you guys are here for the challenge and the glory :) but I'm incressing the points to 575 just for fun.
I want to keep it to a simple boot menu, without having to make special adjustments to reach particular OSs. Remember I switch my drives back and forth from Master to Slave with a toggle, not that it should effect anything. I can always unplug to due the setup. Thanks and good luck.
It also does'nt look as though I can get there from here.
So I'm willing to do a complete wipe and re-install of all OS. So I'm altering the challenge. First Can I get all OSs to work on one HD without having to hide and unhide them with partition magic, at least after install (during is fine). Will BootMagic handle this if nessary?
I'm after a Step by Step guide to getting Win98; Win98SE; WinME; Win2000Server; XPHome; XPPro; and perferable Linux on one HD. I want to have at least XPHome in NTFS even if converted after the completed setup.
I know most of you guys are here for the challenge and the glory :) but I'm incressing the points to 575 just for fun.
I want to keep it to a simple boot menu, without having to make special adjustments to reach particular OSs. Remember I switch my drives back and forth from Master to Slave with a toggle, not that it should effect anything. I can always unplug to due the setup. Thanks and good luck.
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500 point limit :(
Just out of interest, why are you actually swapping the drives. iirc lilo [LInux LOader] and grub are able to effectively swap the ide chains over.
e.g. in lilo, add this to your section:
map-drive=0x80
to = 0x81
map-drive=0x81
to = 0x80
This should swap drive 1 and drive2 over. the 0x80 and 0x81 are the bios references for the drives.
This may not help at all, but it may just provide a way in for you.
Hope this helps!
e.g. in lilo, add this to your section:
map-drive=0x80
to = 0x81
map-drive=0x81
to = 0x80
This should swap drive 1 and drive2 over. the 0x80 and 0x81 are the bios references for the drives.
This may not help at all, but it may just provide a way in for you.
Hope this helps!
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Ok Crazy, Every OS partition as primary, hide everyone but the one being installed, hide that one, unhide another install, ect... Then load BootMagic? Do I unhide all the partitons and install or leave them hidden and install?
Can I do NTFS and Fat32? Do I need a Fat/Fat16 Partition?
Maybe your onto it here, I'm looking for clarification as I've little experence with BM.
I'll check back later, but I'm willing to try it tonight.
Can I do NTFS and Fat32? Do I need a Fat/Fat16 Partition?
Maybe your onto it here, I'm looking for clarification as I've little experence with BM.
I'll check back later, but I'm willing to try it tonight.
You can use what ever file system you want on each partition. Quite frankly I have never tried to partition for that many OS's at one time so I really don't know how it is going to go. The purpose of hiding the partitions during install is so the DOS base OS's think they are being intalled on C and won't over write the other DOS based OS's boot files.
The NT based OS's get along pretty good with one another so the partitions really don't need to be hidden to install them.
The NT based OS's get along pretty good with one another so the partitions really don't need to be hidden to install them.
For All OSes i am developing a Software called "WINBOOT"
This software is totally for Microsoft Products and all other third party OSes like Linux, BEOS and other.
I can send u the Demo copy of that software
please tell me ur Email ID so that i can send u the Software.
Beacuse i developed this software only for that Purpose
Features of WINBOOT
-------------------
1. Run ur selected softwares from ur CDFS CD
While running ur software+Windows from CD u need nothing
on ur Hard disk or u Don't need hard disk to Run
Microsoft Windows products just boot the CD i will
provide u and select whatever u want.
2. Install any Microsoft Windows product in just 8-10 Minute
3. Built-in CDFS Explorer by using this Explorer first u can make changes in ur drives then u can force program to
apply changes or u can also reset the same.
4. Check and Restore All drives or Windows Files
5. This Software keeps a list of Files on ur system to one
of the following Drive :
Virtual Drive
CDFS CD Drive
This virtual drive is ur Hard Disk drive partition and
it will be hidden from other softwares and Windows
beacuse this drive is only for Recovery purpose.
6. Udation of CDFS CD or Virtual Drive.
U can write CD from this Software for selected or all
files
( There are so many options in Each Menu )
thankx
nk_hacker@yahoo.com
This software is totally for Microsoft Products and all other third party OSes like Linux, BEOS and other.
I can send u the Demo copy of that software
please tell me ur Email ID so that i can send u the Software.
Beacuse i developed this software only for that Purpose
Features of WINBOOT
-------------------
1. Run ur selected softwares from ur CDFS CD
While running ur software+Windows from CD u need nothing
on ur Hard disk or u Don't need hard disk to Run
Microsoft Windows products just boot the CD i will
provide u and select whatever u want.
2. Install any Microsoft Windows product in just 8-10 Minute
3. Built-in CDFS Explorer by using this Explorer first u can make changes in ur drives then u can force program to
apply changes or u can also reset the same.
4. Check and Restore All drives or Windows Files
5. This Software keeps a list of Files on ur system to one
of the following Drive :
Virtual Drive
CDFS CD Drive
This virtual drive is ur Hard Disk drive partition and
it will be hidden from other softwares and Windows
beacuse this drive is only for Recovery purpose.
6. Udation of CDFS CD or Virtual Drive.
U can write CD from this Software for selected or all
files
( There are so many options in Each Menu )
thankx
nk_hacker@yahoo.com
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split the points around whoever helped in the problem! you don't need to give the whole 500 points to 1 person
thx
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I agree with kussomak why just crazyones comment and also just which one ? this one maybe ?...Use PM and create the same amount of primary partitions as you have OS's and one extended partition for data that you want to share between OS's.
Lets count them up Win98; Win98SE; WinME; Win2000Server; XPHome; XPPro; and perferable Linux on one HD..........6 possiably 7 primary partitions on one drive ???
eather split or delete
Lets count them up Win98; Win98SE; WinME; Win2000Server; XPHome; XPPro; and perferable Linux on one HD..........6 possiably 7 primary partitions on one drive ???
eather split or delete
>>>>6 possiably 7 primary partitions on one drive ???
Why not? PM I beleive can create more then the 4 primary partitions.
Why not? PM I beleive can create more then the 4 primary partitions.
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Well with three of those OS's the partitions will need to hidden for it to work so a I think a solution has been offered. I would recommend a split.
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James Mythwyn wants to install these three OS's so like I said some are going to have to be hidden
Microsoft Windows ME
Windows 98 Second Edition
Microsoft Microsoft Windows 98 GOLD"
Microsoft Windows ME
Windows 98 Second Edition
Microsoft Microsoft Windows 98 GOLD"
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Split it is. :( I had hoped for a real solid "concise" step by step, It never came.
I appreciate all the effert put forth by all, but as you may notice, I selected trekie1's comment as Answer
>"maybe and only if he keeps them hidden but thats not what he wanted
>http://www.powerquest.com/support/primus/id3477.cfm
>
>just another thread with no positive actual fix only possiabley or maybe fixes offered
>recommend delete "
I also want to explain the "C" grade, It is in no way a reflection on your answers, It simply may not be posible.
It's a reflection on how well this thread resolves the question.
I've taken off my drive switch, my solution "although not what I strived for" is to simple create a base clean install of each OS on the first primary and back it up. With the speed of my system, it's only a matter of minutes to restore the needed OS, run my utility tests, and return to my working setup.
I appoligize if you feel I've wasted your time, "any shareing of knowledge is never wasted in my book" I feel the point split was fair based on realavence to the question. Hopefully someone will benifit from the thread.
Thanks All.
I appreciate all the effert put forth by all, but as you may notice, I selected trekie1's comment as Answer
>"maybe and only if he keeps them hidden but thats not what he wanted
>http://www.powerquest.com/support/primus/id3477.cfm
>
>just another thread with no positive actual fix only possiabley or maybe fixes offered
>recommend delete "
I also want to explain the "C" grade, It is in no way a reflection on your answers, It simply may not be posible.
It's a reflection on how well this thread resolves the question.
I've taken off my drive switch, my solution "although not what I strived for" is to simple create a base clean install of each OS on the first primary and back it up. With the speed of my system, it's only a matter of minutes to restore the needed OS, run my utility tests, and return to my working setup.
I appoligize if you feel I've wasted your time, "any shareing of knowledge is never wasted in my book" I feel the point split was fair based on realavence to the question. Hopefully someone will benifit from the thread.
Thanks All.