How can I cut the first 20% of my hard drive and install windows 2000 on the remainder of the drive
I have a friend Packard Bell Laptop
Serial Number - 100037650138
The drive has been going real slow and then failing to boot.
The laptop has an XP Home COA but was installed with windows 2000
I have tried to just put my windows disk in and format and wipe the drive as all data has been copied from the laptop
However it gets to like 8% and wont format any further.
I have tried creating separate partitions during the installation but the laptop keeps defaulting to the partition that is damaged and wont let me install on the second half of the drive.
I have tried using a windows 98se boot disk, downloading scandisk etc etc but these are saying they are unable to scan the drive.... maybe because it is only 8% formatted before I rebooted.
Is there a program I can use in dos to sort this out.
I know I need to really replace the drive but the hard drive in this laptop is situated in a way that the screen needs removing.......
can anyone help
Serial Number - 100037650138
The drive has been going real slow and then failing to boot.
The laptop has an XP Home COA but was installed with windows 2000
I have tried to just put my windows disk in and format and wipe the drive as all data has been copied from the laptop
However it gets to like 8% and wont format any further.
I have tried creating separate partitions during the installation but the laptop keeps defaulting to the partition that is damaged and wont let me install on the second half of the drive.
I have tried using a windows 98se boot disk, downloading scandisk etc etc but these are saying they are unable to scan the drive.... maybe because it is only 8% formatted before I rebooted.
Is there a program I can use in dos to sort this out.
I know I need to really replace the drive but the hard drive in this laptop is situated in a way that the screen needs removing.......
can anyone help
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Hello,
I think this is what you require,
Seagate's exclusive disc drive diagnostic software designed to troubleshoot most hard drive issues.
http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/
And there are plenty of other software,
http://tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=287
Regards,
Ritesh
I think this is what you require,
Seagate's exclusive disc drive diagnostic software designed to troubleshoot most hard drive issues.
http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/
And there are plenty of other software,
http://tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=287
Regards,
Ritesh
elitehaxor - You'll note that I said throw it out if it had a hardware problem! If you're keeping hard drives with faulty hardware, then 1 company of 40 people not able to work for 1 hour at minimum wage( approx £5...but most earn considerably more) = £200
I'd be erring towards a hardware problem on this due to the fact that the 'normal' software solutions 'hang' at 8%?...and yes thankyou - I do earn plenty of dosh;)....probably because I'm more methodical than you;)
And if the hardware's faulty are you going to trust it? - Hence the link - If in doubt, confirm that the hardware is OK, before wasting time repartitioning and reinstalling your software, or do you enjoy wasting 5 hours 2 or 3 times re-installing to faulty drives?
Even Ritesh agrees with me.......Identical links!
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I'd be erring towards a hardware problem on this due to the fact that the 'normal' software solutions 'hang' at 8%?...and yes thankyou - I do earn plenty of dosh;)....probably because I'm more methodical than you;)
And if the hardware's faulty are you going to trust it? - Hence the link - If in doubt, confirm that the hardware is OK, before wasting time repartitioning and reinstalling your software, or do you enjoy wasting 5 hours 2 or 3 times re-installing to faulty drives?
Even Ritesh agrees with me.......Identical links!
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hi engineer dell
seeing as this is a Compaq how do we know what HDD it has ? seagate diagnostics work for seagate HDD only,
lets scrub the drive quickly and reinstall windows if this fails the drive is faulty otherwise we realise that it was a corrupt O/S.
due to the way compaq setup there disks with the restore partition hidden, it can make setup of the compaq difficult it will also cause problems with formatting the drive.
cheers
seeing as this is a Compaq how do we know what HDD it has ? seagate diagnostics work for seagate HDD only,
lets scrub the drive quickly and reinstall windows if this fails the drive is faulty otherwise we realise that it was a corrupt O/S.
due to the way compaq setup there disks with the restore partition hidden, it can make setup of the compaq difficult it will also cause problems with formatting the drive.
cheers
Just .02 more cents.
The error behavior described indicates a physical problem with the hard drive, not the OS. This is surmised by the hanging at 8%. The most optimistic people would suggest a defective/scratched install cd (usually not the case).
Partitioning is useless when you have a hardware defect anyhow. It's just 1 drive, you don't magically create a second drive that will run perfectly. Both partitions are being serviced by the same head that does the writing, problem with the head will toast everything. If a room of your house is on fire you could close the door to "partition" the rest of the house from it, but it isn't going to help, it's already toast.
Lastly, I've never encountered a laptop that required the screen to be removed for a hdd replacement. It's typically 1 or 2 screws on a bottom panel. Remove the panel and the hdd will slide out with careful adjustment.
The error behavior described indicates a physical problem with the hard drive, not the OS. This is surmised by the hanging at 8%. The most optimistic people would suggest a defective/scratched install cd (usually not the case).
Partitioning is useless when you have a hardware defect anyhow. It's just 1 drive, you don't magically create a second drive that will run perfectly. Both partitions are being serviced by the same head that does the writing, problem with the head will toast everything. If a room of your house is on fire you could close the door to "partition" the rest of the house from it, but it isn't going to help, it's already toast.
Lastly, I've never encountered a laptop that required the screen to be removed for a hdd replacement. It's typically 1 or 2 screws on a bottom panel. Remove the panel and the hdd will slide out with careful adjustment.
hey pj
how long will you waste on a hard drive ? testing the drive to find the device is working ???? then you still need to remove the compaq RESTORE PARTITION which is flagged as hidden and cannot be removed by windows format utility,
then after you have finished that you will need to restore the O/S
or you could cut the crap remove all partitions clean the drive try reinstall of the O/S if it fails the drive is faulty if it works there was an O/S partition problem.
please tell me pj how long does it take to fully test and diagnose faults with a hard disk ?
how long will you waste on a hard drive ? testing the drive to find the device is working ???? then you still need to remove the compaq RESTORE PARTITION which is flagged as hidden and cannot be removed by windows format utility,
then after you have finished that you will need to restore the O/S
or you could cut the crap remove all partitions clean the drive try reinstall of the O/S if it fails the drive is faulty if it works there was an O/S partition problem.
please tell me pj how long does it take to fully test and diagnose faults with a hard disk ?
Seagate? Compaq? This is a Packard Bell laptop with a Hitachi hdd...
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm
plus PJ is correct with his assumption.
>However it gets to like 8% and wont format any further.
The user has ALREADY tried a reinstall... There is no such thing as an O/S failure at install. The problem is either hardware or the media (cd). There is technically no O/S running during an install, just the boot loader.
>How long will it take to test the hard drive?
How long did it take to get to 8% and fail? That will probably be the length of your test time.
>However it gets to like 8% and wont format any further.
The user has ALREADY tried a reinstall... There is no such thing as an O/S failure at install. The problem is either hardware or the media (cd). There is technically no O/S running during an install, just the boot loader.
>How long will it take to test the hard drive?
How long did it take to get to 8% and fail? That will probably be the length of your test time.
craylord first of all the harddisk as supplied by Compaq is usually 2 partitions, as you said if one room is on fire,
if you wipe the drive clean properly "let me say it slowly so you can comprehend" removing both partitions then reinstall windows on a clean slate, it will be easier to diagnose if there is a hardware fault ie the O/S will not load,
unless the user has been trying to run the Compaq restore cd instead of a normal copy of windows, now if the image file contained on partition 2 is faulty it could get to any percent through the ISO ie 1% or 99% and throw a friken error,
how can you claim to know exactly what is going on with the install you have not even taken into consideration what type of restore method the user is using, for the record you all have drawn poor conclusions to the faults of this machine,
tell me craylord what is happening at exactly 8% on windows sp2 during install ? as apposed to say 8% of an image file copying.
if you wipe the drive clean properly "let me say it slowly so you can comprehend" removing both partitions then reinstall windows on a clean slate, it will be easier to diagnose if there is a hardware fault ie the O/S will not load,
unless the user has been trying to run the Compaq restore cd instead of a normal copy of windows, now if the image file contained on partition 2 is faulty it could get to any percent through the ISO ie 1% or 99% and throw a friken error,
how can you claim to know exactly what is going on with the install you have not even taken into consideration what type of restore method the user is using, for the record you all have drawn poor conclusions to the faults of this machine,
tell me craylord what is happening at exactly 8% on windows sp2 during install ? as apposed to say 8% of an image file copying.
im very sorry, i see that the laptop is packard bell not compaq, i dont know why i thought it was a compaq laptop i should open my eyes, please disregard my remarks
thanks
thanks
Hello auraorange, Dump your hard drive in the trash and install a new one. It isn't that hard to do....Booda2us
Since you already copied the data out. Like the rest mentioned it is just best to get a new drive and replace it.
Setup the laptop back. Do your meddling with the faulty drive as a external device.
Ritesh,
By the way, the seatools is not always good when coming to finding the problem of a disk as
in past experience, it actually cause more damage to my dis especially if one you are recovering data fromk.
Setup the laptop back. Do your meddling with the faulty drive as a external device.
Ritesh,
By the way, the seatools is not always good when coming to finding the problem of a disk as
in past experience, it actually cause more damage to my dis especially if one you are recovering data fromk.
>Hello Imacgouf,
Seagate Tools or any other hardware diagnostic tool is never intended to recover data. It is the last option to recover the hardware, for data recovery there are option as well. I hope you will agree with this.
>Aura
You should test your hard drive, before trying anything else, I assume that you have already tried another setup CD. It seems that it is a pure harddisk problem, please mention hard drive details if possible.
I guess this will surely help you -
200 ways to revive a hard drive
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6255-5029761-2.html
Regards,
Engineer_Dell
Seagate Tools or any other hardware diagnostic tool is never intended to recover data. It is the last option to recover the hardware, for data recovery there are option as well. I hope you will agree with this.
>Aura
You should test your hard drive, before trying anything else, I assume that you have already tried another setup CD. It seems that it is a pure harddisk problem, please mention hard drive details if possible.
I guess this will surely help you -
200 ways to revive a hard drive
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6255-5029761-2.html
Regards,
Engineer_Dell
That's a really nice link Engineer_Dell - Added to my bookmarks;)
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Hi guys thanks for the feedback
Ranish was very good and I got so far with it.....
However the drive has actually got so bad that it wont actually let me even start formatting for fdisk the drive...
im going to change the drive, once again thank you
Ranish was very good and I got so far with it.....
However the drive has actually got so bad that it wont actually let me even start formatting for fdisk the drive...
im going to change the drive, once again thank you
>how can you claim to know exactly what is going on with the install you have not even taken into consideration what >type of restore method the user is using, for the record you all have drawn poor conclusions to the faults of this >machine,
1. It does not matter what restore method is being used. Because a) format fails b) repartition fails c) scandisk fails d) data copying to hdd fails. i.e. install with cd fails, this would count as copying data to the hdd.
2. My poor conclusion was right.
3. It didn't matter what restore method was being used as all basic hdd prep were failing.
>tell me craylord what is happening at exactly 8% on windows sp2 during install ? as apposed to say 8% of an image >file copying.
The same thing is happening, data is being copied to the hdd. Nothing more. You can see why this will fail based on the educated deductions listed above from several years of experience. If you have more insight, I would gladly like to hear what the difference is. I'm always open to further enlightenment.
1. It does not matter what restore method is being used. Because a) format fails b) repartition fails c) scandisk fails d) data copying to hdd fails. i.e. install with cd fails, this would count as copying data to the hdd.
2. My poor conclusion was right.
3. It didn't matter what restore method was being used as all basic hdd prep were failing.
>tell me craylord what is happening at exactly 8% on windows sp2 during install ? as apposed to say 8% of an image >file copying.
The same thing is happening, data is being copied to the hdd. Nothing more. You can see why this will fail based on the educated deductions listed above from several years of experience. If you have more insight, I would gladly like to hear what the difference is. I'm always open to further enlightenment.
Gee...Didn't I say change the Hard drive?...Booda2us
pjedmond you must be making real good money bro ? i know i would be broke if i threw out a hard disk every time i had a problem.
ohh pjedmond can you tell me was it the o/s or an actual drive fault ? i certainly cant tell from the users information, all he says is it was going slow and failing to boot, from that information it could be hardware or software related.
auraorange if i am wrong and you just want to purchase another disk then by all means, however if you would just like to quickly resolve this matter without wasting time, well i will leave that up 2 you
cheers