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Origin of Phrase 800 Pound Gorilla

Asked by: superm401

I saw this question asked other places online, but never saw the answer.  Therefore, what was the first metaphorical use of the phrase 800-pound gorilla?

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Answers

 

by: CallandorPosted on 2005-04-14 at 13:23:01ID: 13785538

It was used in a Question and Answer pair long ago, but no one knows how long.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/18/messages/890.html

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-04-15 at 18:31:50ID: 13795894

I've seen the top post and it does not answer my question.  And there's no reason to believe it was first in that 1994 book.  The question will remain open until I can find the person or organization who definitively used it first.

 

by: CodedKPosted on 2005-04-16 at 00:51:36ID: 13796605

..Sorry ... that was...the oldest post that i could find...

 

by: mcv22Posted on 2005-04-16 at 03:26:17ID: 13796881

This is a reference to that phrase: http://www.nea.org/teachexperience/gb040405.html

Still no clue about its origin though

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-04-16 at 19:31:23ID: 13799699

I appreciate your efforts, but I'll keep the question open until I get a direct answer to the question about the first use.

 

by: JohnnyCanuckPosted on 2005-04-17 at 06:31:39ID: 13800963

Chapman’s Dictionary of American Slang

600/800/900-POUND GORILLA by 1970s: A powerful force; a virtually irresistible influence <. . . likens Spielberg to an ‘800-pound gorilla.’ which can be defined as a high-priced Holly wood species that makes its own decisions.—Los Angeles Times> <. . . there were no obvious 900-pound gorillas like Forest Gump or Schindler’s List—Wisconsin State Journal> [Etymology: from a joke in which the question “Where does a 600-pound gorilla sleep?” is answered “Anywhere it wants.”]

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-04-17 at 12:52:51ID: 13802270

That entymology seems kind of weak.  I'll accept it if need be.

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-04-24 at 11:58:06ID: 13854689

I would also note that that post doesn't tell me what the first metaphorical use was.  It might say where they got the idea, however.

 

by: BILJAXPosted on 2005-04-25 at 18:53:04ID: 13863523

It's like asking for the phrase "whatever"..  Could have been used on the 1400's could have started in the 1960's, who knows.   It seems rather ridiculous to me to have this post open anymore after JC gave a fair answer.


AC

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-04-26 at 15:18:37ID: 13871322

I'll close it in a few days if I haven't received a better answer.  However, if I am going to give credit for an answer of that type, it will go to Callandor, because he first cited the joke.

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-05-01 at 17:57:53ID: 13906252

I've accepted Callandor's answer only because no one could do better.

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