Question

Why can't I cast a base class into the derived class

Asked by: sethspearman

I have a base class called MeetingBase that is declared like this:
Public MustInherit Class MeetingBase(Of T As MeetingBase(Of T))

I have a derived class that is declared like this:
    Public Class Meeting
         Inherits MeetingBase(Of Meeting)

In the BASE class I have this code
Protected Sub MyMethod
   'Do SomethingElse expects a Meeting object.  So why can't I do this:
   DoSomethingElse(CType(Me,T))
End Sub

It won't even compile and is showing "Value of Type 'T' cannot be converted to 'namespace...meeting'"

So I tried this:
DoSomethingElse(CType(Me,Meeting))

This gives similar error as follows:
"Value of Type 'namespace...meetingBase(Of T)' cannot be converted to 'namespace...meeting'"

I thought you can always cast a base class to the derived class.  So why this message?

The namespaces are the same.

Seth B Spearman

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Answers

 

by: adam_pedleyPosted on 2007-10-27 at 22:14:46ID: 20163775

I'm not sure on your exact problem you are mentioning but isnt the correct way meant to be

Base Class      ->      Derived Class
    Method                     Overrides Method

So that is the proper way to do polymorphism

So if you code this

Public MustInherit Class BaseClass

    Public Overridable Sub TestMethod(ByVal t As BaseClass)
        t.MethodToBeCalled()
    End Sub

    Public MustOverride Sub MethodToBeCalled()

End Class


Public Class Meeting
    Inherits BaseClass

    Public Overrides Sub TestMethod(ByVal t As BaseClass)
        MyBase.TestMethod(t)

    End Sub

    Public Overrides Sub MethodToBeCalled()
        MsgBox("hello")
    End Sub

End Class

then call it by
       Dim t As New Meeting
        t.TestMethod(t)

and you will get the msgbox "hello"

Is this what you are trying to achieve?

 

by: Babycorn-StarfishPosted on 2007-10-28 at 02:16:16ID: 20164113

Hi,

>>I thought you can always cast a base class to the derived class

I thought it was the other way, you can always cast from a more general subclass to a less general (more specific) superclass

 

by: Babycorn-StarfishPosted on 2007-10-28 at 02:26:36ID: 20164130

hi,

post you code for the DoSomethingElse method.

thx

 

by: sethspearmanPosted on 2007-10-28 at 16:32:31ID: 20166723

Thanks for your responses.

To further explain...I do realize that this is not the norm and that you usually cast the base class into the derived class.  However in this case I know that the type consumed by my method will ALWAYS be of the type of the derived class.  (The only reason I am using base classess is so that I can code gen the base class at will.  Every one of my consumed classes will have a base for this reason).

The bottom line is that this will make the base class more helpful for my purposes

Babycorn,  The DoSomethingElse method is not relevant to the question.  I could have just as easily been doing an assignment on that line like this:   "meeting=ctype(me, T)"  as calling into a proc.  The build error is on that line and the DoSomethingElse is closer to the way my real code looks.

Thank you guys.  
Seth

 

by: sethspearmanPosted on 2007-10-28 at 16:37:16ID: 20166738

One last thing...

I guess what I am saying is that I don't want to implement the MyMethod in my derived class.  I would rather only implement in the base.  But I realize (and that is my question) that may not be an option for me.  I am still learning OOP and was surprised my code was not working.  

Seth

 

by: adam_pedleyPosted on 2007-10-28 at 18:17:43ID: 20167084

Ok, I'm still not entirely sure on what you want but is it something like this?

Public MustInherit Class MeetingBase(Of T As MeetingBase(Of T))

    Public Sub MyMethod()

        DoSomethingElse(Me)
    End Sub

    Public MustOverride ReadOnly Property Name() As String

    Public Sub DoSomethingElse(ByVal obj As T)
        MsgBox(obj.Name)
    End Sub

End Class

Public Class Meeting
    Inherits MeetingBase(Of Meeting)

    Public Overrides ReadOnly Property Name() As String
        Get
            Return "Meeting Class"
        End Get
    End Property

End Class


 

by: Arthur_WoodPosted on 2007-10-28 at 18:29:16ID: 20167143

>>"I thought you can always cast a base class to the derived class."

You can ALWAYS cast a derived class into a base class, not the other way around

Consider the following:

Your base class is Animal, and you derived classes are Dog and Cat

Class Animal
  Public Sub Eat()
End Class

Class Dog Inherits Animal
    Public Sub Bark()
End Class

Class Cat Inherits Animal
    Public SUb Meow()
End Class

A Dog object can eat (by virtue of being an animal), and Bark (by virtue of being a Dog)

A Cat object can eat (by virtue of being an animal), and Can Meow (by virtue of being a Cat)  

A Cat cannot Bark, and a Dog cannot Meow.

Thus you can cType(Dog, Animal)  after a Dog is an animal, and as such can eat.

But you cannot cType(Animal, Dog)  a general Animal might not be a Dog (after all, a Cat is an Animal, but a Cat is not a Dog)  So just because you have a Animal object does not necessarily mean that it is a Dog object.  But if you have a Dog object, you know that it must also be an Animal object.

AW


 

by: sethspearmanPosted on 2007-11-24 at 19:20:54ID: 31408403

Thanks,

That was basically what I needed.  A yes or no answer as to whether it could be done.  I guess the answer is "NO".  And the explanation helps it to gel.

Thanks.

 

by: Arthur_WoodPosted on 2007-11-24 at 22:00:52ID: 20344898

Glad to be of assistance

AW

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