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Pushlet like concept in ASP .Net

Asked by: pamboo

I have a TCP server listening at say port 3005.Any TCP client can connect and recieve online transactions send by this server.My need is to recieve this data asyncronously in the web page and show the live transactions.

1.First method i tried was using User control(.Net Windows Control Library).
   I can able to run the user control without any problem on receiving the transactions asyncronously from the server using .Net raw sockets APIs.
   But when I run the same 'user control' in my web application , it throws socketpermission exception since .Net Code Access Security prevents connection to TCP ports which are not following HTTP protocols.The solution is to set the Machine Code security permissionset to "FullTrust" using caspol.exe utilty or framework console wizard.But the user at the client PC has to set this permission explicitly when he browse this control, which is not acceptable.

   I read atricles that one can set the socket permission unrestricted.To set the socket permission unrestricted , one need to set the securitypermission unrestricted first.I tried this and the same problem (Socket Permission Exception).No change in adding the following sets of code in my 'User control'

/*********************************************************************************************************/
  PermissionSet ps = new PermissionSet(PermissionState.None);
  ps.AddPermission(new SecurityPermission(PermissionState.Unrestricted));
  ps.AddPermission(new SocketPermission(PermissionState.Unrestricted));
  ps.Assert();
/*********************************************************************************************************/

2.Later after working 2 to 3 days , I thought of dropping this user control logic and went for AJAX related study work to achieve this.

As per my knowlegde , I see that the client has to poll anyway to the web server to recieve any updates using JS SetTimeout method and asyncronous callbacks to prevent full page refresh.This is something like client pull method.

I need to get asynchronous call back from the server to the client side by only one event request at the first and the web server has to subsequently send the updates whenever it recieve from the TCP server connected.

I just tried this small example on a simple ASP .NET web application button event,

/********************************************************************************************************/
      Try
            Dim i As Integer
            For i = 1 To 10
                Response.BufferOutput = False
                Response.Write("hello")
                Response.Flush()                
                Thread.Sleep(1000)
            Next
        Catch ex As Exception
        End Try
/********************************************************************************************************/

But the page is kept loading untill on the while llop ends and "Flush" method doesnt help as I thought.

So, the experts please give me a sloution in ASP .Net where I need to get the online transactions live on a web page without client refresh.

Is there anything like "Pushlets" of JAVA technology equivalent in .Net? i.e Instead of closing the HTTP connection after fetching an HTML page, the connection is kept open while fresh data is pushed to the client.

Experts ,  please help on this requirement. Experts can even please explain how to achieve the code security permission unrestricted inside the user control itself to connect to non HTTP TCP ports when called from web applicaiton.

P.S: I m not prefering for client pull method which i feel overloaded and unnecessary when the transactions occurance interval is unpredicatable.Only when the server receive the transaction , just push to the client is a best way, I feel.

Thanks and Regards,
Nagarajan S

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2007-05-28 at 03:18:24ID22597860
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by: AGBrownPosted on 2007-05-29 at 03:59:39ID: 19171271

Basically, I don't think its possible as you want it. ASP.NET is designed around the client-request model. The reason your while loop doesn't work is that you haven't called Response.End(), and therefore the client won't update the browser.

There are solutions, but they are imperfect and involve third-party products that make user of flash to keep a socket open. Alternatively you would have to build a bespoke server and start an ajax request on the client which kept a socket open and listened for information. This, as you probably know, is tricky as that socket will timeout at some point and you'll need to detect that and open another one.

The best way that I have found to do this is to use the MS AJAX (ajax.asp.net) framework and drop a timer with a few update panels on the page. To be honest, the performance requirements for refreshing every five seconds and keeping sockets open to the web server are going to be similar. Therefore you aren't going to have much luck trying to pump data into a webusercontrol; instances of pages and their controls only last for the duration of a request. Instead you will need an application scope object that deals with incoming data, and that pages can then poll during their refresh periods for new information. If you wanted to you could make use of the web service calls to get the information instead, all of that is taken care of in the framework.

Does that help?

Andy

 

by: Computer101Posted on 2007-11-20 at 15:37:24ID: 20324393

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