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LINQ O/R Mapper , Default Value and Auto Generated Value Property BUG or oversight

Asked by: WanaBRich

When using the LINQ OR Mapper is there a way to force the designer to use the SQL Meta Data to grab the default value properties and set the Auto Generated Value to True, from the default value of False?


The way it is now when you drag a table from SQL onto the .dbml designer in VS 2008 if there is a default value in the Database say for a integer data field of (0) that does not come over into the designer. I can set it via the Auto Generated Value if I set it to true but if the database schema changes and I need to put the table over to update the schema change then I lose the setting. I would think that by default if there was a Default values present on a field that the OR mapper would set the Auto Generated Value to True.

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2008-05-20 at 11:34:22ID23418342
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Answers

 

by: WanaBRichPosted on 2008-05-23 at 04:21:39ID: 21631004

I have asked this question to the Microsoft LINQ Team... Stay tuned

 

by: WanaBRichPosted on 2008-05-29 at 06:34:30ID: 21668929

The answer is That is expected. The autogenerated property is only set to true for certain column types. See Samirs response below. Samir works on the SQL side of the LINQ project.

If you want to force that behavior you can override LINQ in the DataContext.



From:
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:32 PM
To: LINQ User Community
Subject: RE: LINQ O/R Maper Bug or ???

AutoGenerated (the IsDbGenerated attribute value) is true only for auto-incrementing (identity) and version (row version) columns. Default values dont lead to the AutoGenerated attribute.

You need to override the default behavior of LINQ to SQL inserts by defining your own insert methods on the DataContext.

Thanks,

 

by: WanaBRichPosted on 2008-05-29 at 06:35:44ID: 21668933

I have begun my rant to have this fixed :)

Ok that really does not work very well in a production system that is using defaults values.

Here is an example. I have a production database that we are building a new front end, it has a lot of default values in the database. We want to use LINQ

Since there is on way to refresh the schema (the .dbml file) I have to drag a new version each time something changes in the back end. Then I have to go back and manually override the default values each time.

What need to happen is some how I need to be able to persist the overrides or I need a option that allow me to configure the importing of the default values to AutoGenerated to true. Wouldnt you think that should be the default behavior of the import?

If we are using the DB as the starting point for the LINQ O/R Mapper and each time something changes you are say that we have to delete the object on the designer and drag it back wouldnt it make since that if there was a default value in the DB that I want it used if I dont supply one?


How you would you recommend I manage this? If you think about it I think youll see my point.

I had been using DeKlarit for 5 years before LINQ came out I had a lot of input on how that tool works and the big thing is how does it stand up in a real world production / development environment. This one issue will not allow for R.A.D. it introduces a lot of chance for Human errors at any point.

Oops I forgot to override the default value or more realistically the new developer 6 months later will add a new field in the DB generate a new DMBL object because there is not a way to refresh the schema and he doesnt even know about the default values.

This is actually a showstopper in my mind.

I will be heading to TechEd in a few days and Ill ask this question a few times and debate my point until is get fixed.

I am the squeaky wheel J

Oil me!

Thanks for the response.

 

by: craigdevPosted on 2008-10-25 at 09:19:05ID: 22804009

Hi WanaBRich how did you get on at TechEd, is this still setup like this now in Linq to SQL VS2008? I am going through the same thing and it is very annoying.

Thanks.

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