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Simplifying sockets & threading in VB.NET?

Asked by: mcainc

I'm moving over from VB6 to VB.NET and am wondering if VB.NET has anything like the simple winsock control that was available in VB6

I'm interested in using sockets and truly threading about 10 connections (as opposed to creating control indexes in VB6)

What is the best solution / path for me to follow since I'm totally new to threading this way.

Here is what I'm trying to do, maybe you guys can give me some advice on the best way for me to go about it without re-inventing the wheel here:

1. Log into myspace and check my inbox for comments
2. Follow the link to "approve" the comment
3. Multiply this by 10 instances (for 10 accounts) that can do the same things independantly

I suppose I need something for sockets, threading & html parsing?

Thanks!

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2006-10-16 at 03:54:40ID22025584
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Microsoft Visual Basic.Net

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by: mcaincPosted on 2006-10-16 at 03:56:39ID: 17737635

One more thing I would prefer to use existing / free code for any of these things if its out there... i know it would be great for me to LEARN by writing some of these things myself from the ground up... however, i just dont have the time and want to get from point A (nothing) to point B (completed app) as quickly as possible :)

thanks!

 

by: AlexFMPosted on 2006-10-16 at 04:09:49ID: 17737697

.NET socket classes can be used in asynchronous mode. This means, you don't need to care about multithreading - this is done internally by .NET socket implementation. Callback functions are called when some socket event occurs, for example, data is received or client connected. You need to handle these socket events.
Download file VisualBasic.msi from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=08e3d5f8-033d-420b-a3b1-3074505c03f3&displaylang=en
and install it. It contains relatively simple asynchrovous socket sample. This is chat program which contains two parts - server and client. You can learn .NET sockets from this sample.

 

by: mcaincPosted on 2006-10-16 at 04:14:38ID: 17737719

AlexFM,

That is a great start, thanks... but what about independant processing for each 'account' i want to use? The reason I ask this is because I believe i will need to use a 'sleep' function somewhere in the code... in VB6 this would stop the entire application.

 

by: mcaincPosted on 2006-10-16 at 17:39:39ID: 17744089

Also, any good MySQL odbc controls or anything out there for VB.net?

 

by: xersoftPosted on 2006-10-17 at 09:58:35ID: 17749564

I am unsure of any specific examples that show you how to do what you are thinking of doing but I’m sure they are out there.

Here is a method I use for this type of app.

This would change somewhat if you were writing a UI type program but usually these types of app run as windows services. In either case it should work but the UI *could* get choppy under heavy load.

Your application starts with it’s initial thread. Open the socket with this thread and begin listening for new connections. This can be done like this:

Dim Listener as New Net.Sockets.TcpListener(Net.IPAddress.Any, ControlPort)

‘Now start a loop that watches for new connections:
While (ContinueListeningFlag = True)

      If Listener.Pending = True Then
            ‘create new client (see below)

            'we have a client waiting to talk to us
            Dim ClientSocket As Net.Sockets.TcpClient

            'accept the client
            ClientSocket = Listener.AcceptTcpClient

            Dim Client as new Client(ClientSocket)

            AllClients.add(Client)
      End if

      For each Client in AllClients
            If client.IsNotProcessing andalso client.NeedsProcessing then
                  Client.Process
            End if
      Next


      System.Threading.Thread.CurrentThread.Sleep(10)
End While


There are a number of things you’ll notice in this loop. First we only stay in the loop until we set the ContinueListeningFlag to false, which lets us jump out if needed. Inside the loop we first check for any pending connections and create new clients for them. A client is a class which at the minimum keeps a reference to the new connection. Then we check each client to see if there is processing to be done, doing this processing when necessary.

I believe this is most important because you DO NOT want to create a thread for each client for the life of the client. This will reduce your overall scalability because much of the time those client threads will just sit and do nothing.

How do you know if a client needs processing? And what do you do if it does? The client maintains it’s connection and using that it can see if there is any pending data waiting to be read, plus because it’s the client object, it will know if it has any data to send to the user of the client (it will know because you will have designed it that way). Assuming the client only listens for data coming in and then responds to that data, you could create a needsprocessing function like this:

Public function NeedsProcessing() as Boolean
      Return mTCPClient.GetStream.DataAvailable
End function

This will tell the caller there needs to be some action taken on the client.

Now how do you stick this processing on another thread? Create a method in the client object called Process, which takes one parameter of type object.

Then simply start the client on it’s merry way like this:
System.Threading.ThreadPool.QueueUserWorkItem(AddressOf Client.Process, Nothing)

This will tell the .net framework that you want to start a new thread and have this thread do the work of process.

When the process method ends, the thread will be returned to the pool for use later by someone else or some other client.

It’s important to keep the client.process method as short as possible because you want to tie up as few system resources as you can.

Notice the Client.IsNotProcessing property I also check when seeing if I should process a client. I set this property to false when I start the client.process method and set it to true when I end it. You COULD roll this into the NeedsProcessing procedure and I might even recommend doing that.

We skipped over a rather large topic which should be on the forefront of any threading discussion. That is thread synchronization. That is a complex topic, which I will refer you to another source for.

See the book: Programming Microsoft Visual Basic.net by Francesco Balena for an in-depth talk on threading and thread synchronization.

Hope this at least helps point you in the right direction.

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