Thank you very much. I will attempt to post a more detailed description highlighting some gotchas. Overall, you get a "10" and Microsoft gets a "-10".
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What is install sequence for Visual Studio 2008 Pro Edition, SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition, and no SQL Express
The first disk installs Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition and also SQL Server Express. I do not want SQL Server Express. Rather, I want to install the 2nd disk with SQL Developer Edition. The net is rife with confusing horror stories about what/when to do/not to do. This is a clean machine -- and I can restore it to original factory state again and again until I get this right.
The last time I "completed" an installation, the SQL Server Management Studio was not available. There seems to be something about the installed SQL Server Express and its workstation components that causes problems.
So far, the proposed sequence for my next installation attempt is the following:
(1) Install Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition.
(2) Use Control Panel to remove SQL Server Express. [note that this expects the removal software to do its job and that it does not leave files or registry junk].
(3) Reboot.
(4) Install SQL 2005 Developer edition
(5) Install SQL Service Pack 2.
Question: Does the Control Panel removal of SQL Server Express delete other required stuff such as various workstation components or .NET stuff?
Question: What would be a better, more detailed sequence?
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Thank you, emoreau. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
In a nutshell, emoreau is right: install SQL Developer first and then Visual Studio. However, I have included a more detailed description of the process because there are some gotchas on the road to a successful installation.
<SIDEBAR>: Before emoreau's suggestion, I had spent 47 hours installing and uninstalling and surfing for answers. Not a proud timeline, but a fact nonetheless. While I initially attempted to load Visual Studio Pro Edition and SQL Server Developer edition onto my regular computer, the install failed for a variety of reasons that can be found on the internet. I experienced all of the popular problems. The difficulty after a failed install process is that the uninstall process is inadequate and leaves garbage all over the
computer. Many, many developers have trashed their computer with a failed install, and there are HUGE and BYZANTINE schemes for fixing and re-installing. I started getting weak in the knees when I had to type 100's of GUIDS into a command line console app and hope to find/change certain discovered keys.
After a number of futile attempts to "clean" my regular computer, I bought a brand new, pristine, Toshiba laptop P205-S8811 as the basis for a new install attempt.</SIDEBAR>
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INSTALLING SQL SERVER 2005
--------------------------
<An approximate event sequence of important dialogs, messages, and option selections as the installation proceeds>
...Start SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition setup.
...Installing Prerequisites
- Microsoft SQL Native Client
- Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Setup Support Files
...System Configuration Check
...Registration Information
-[ ] Hide advanced configuration options
<THIS BOX MUST BE UNCHECKED to get Reporting Services, Full Text
search, and other stuff.>
...Welcome to the Microsoft SQL Server Installation Wizard
- Install IIS
NOTE: You may get a message saying "...IIS is either not installed or is disabled." You can immediately use Start > Control Panel > Programs > Programs and Features > Turn Windows Features On or Off > Enable > Internet Info. Service.
The following IIS features must be enabled for some SQL Server features to install:
- Web management tools
-IIS 6 Management Compatibility
- IIS 6 WMI Compatibility
- IIS Metabase and IIS 6 Configuration Compatibility
- World Wide Web Services
- Application Development Features
- .NET Extensibility
- ASP.NET
- ISAPI Extensions
- ISAPI Filters
- Common HTTP Features
- Default Document
- Directory Browsing
- HTTP Redirection
- Static Content
- Security
-Windows Authentication/Basic Authentication
...Detected installed IIS. <Whew! This is good>
...Name Admin
...Company xxxmyCompanyxxxxxx <this will be the name of the SQL server>
...Components to Install
- SQL Server Database Services
- Analysis Services
- Notification Services
- Integration Services
- Workstation Components <including all sample databases)
...Default Instance
- Use built in system account, Local System
...Windows Authentication
...SQL Collations <"DIctionary order case insensitive" is good for most folks>
...Error and Usage Report Settings <leave blank>
...The following components will be installed:
- SQL Server Database Services
- Analysis Service
- Notification Services
- Integration Services
- Client Components
...At this point, the install process runs for awhile.
..."This program has known compatability issues." <It is talking about Workstation components. CANCEL this dialog. The problem will be taken care of later.>
...Setup Progress. All Finished. <Good! I think there is a reboot at this point.>
...Because of the reboot, certain new services are now running. Using Computer > Manage > Services and Applications, stop the following services:
- SQL Server
- SQL Server Active Directory
- SQL Server Agent
- SQL Server Analysis Services
- SQL Server Browser
- SQL Server Full Text Search
- SQL Server Integration Services
- SQL Server VSS Writer
...Download Microsoft SQL Server Service Pack 2 <SQLServer2005SP2-KB921896
...Run SQL Server SP2.
...This program has known compatability issues <Run it anyway, don't bother with the online search>
...Installation Complete. SQL Server 2005 Service Pack 2 Setup has finished. <Good!>
...Using Computer > Manage > Services and Applications > Services,, start SQL Server.
...Run SQL Server 2005 User Provisioning Tool for Vista. This tool explicitly grants access permissions under the more restricted security of Vista. Otherwise, you can't login.
...Reboot. Using Start > Computer > Manage > Services and Applications > Services, you can now observe that important SQL services are now running. You're done with the hard part of the installation.
...As a reality check, use the Control Panel > Programs > Programs and Features to see what SQL Server items have been installed. The list should look like this:
- Microsoft SQL Server 2005
- Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Backward compatibility
- Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Books Online (English)
- Microsoft SQL Server Native Client
- Microsoft SQL Server Setup Support Files (English)
- Microsoft SQL Server VSS Writer
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INSTALLING VISUAL STUDIO 2008 PROFESSIONAL EDITION
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<An event sequence of dialogs, messages, and option selections as the installation proceeds>
...Start Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition.
...Install Visual Studio 2008
...Welcome to the Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Installation Wizard
...Visual Studio 2008 Setup. Setup will install the following components:
- Runtime Pre-requisites
- Microsoft .NET Framework v3.5
- Microsoft Document Explorer 2008
- Microsoft Visual Studio Web Authoring Component
- Microsoft Visual Studio 2008
...Accept the license, enter the product key, and type your username.
...Select features to install
- Custom <Select Custom. Do not select Default or Full. THIS IS IMPORTANT!>
...[ ] Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition. <Clear the selection box to be absolutely certain that SQL Server 2005 Express Edition WILL NOT BE INSTALLED. At this point, you also select the language tools you want (C#, VB, C++, Web).>
...Visual Studio is complete.
...You may think you're done but you're not. The following dialog either starts automatically or occurs when you start Visual Studio for the first time.
...Visual Studio 2008 Setup
...Select the "Check for Service Releases" option. This will download about 254MB of updates. When the updates are finished, reboot, and then - finally - go celebrate. Good luck!
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by: emoreauPosted on 2008-04-17 at 19:14:47ID: 21382852
install SQL first and then Visual Studio. This way, every thing will be setup correctly to debug stored procs from VS
when you will install VS, be sure to uncheck the SQL express feature.