Question

weird number??

Asked by: babyruth

I stumble into a math problem yesterday..Weird Number.
One of my friend said that it's impossible to come up with the source code to generate the weird number because weird number is a unsolved maths mystery... but... i doubted him
so help me proved him wrong.....

here's somthing about weird number...

a weird number is an integer say...n for which:
1.the proper divisors of n sum to a number larger than n; and also
2.n cannot be expressed as the sum of a subset of its proper divisors.
As an example, consider n=12. The divisors are 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 12. The proper divisors of a number are the divisors of n exluding n itself. Thus the proper divisors of 12 are 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6. These sum to 16 so the first condition is satisfied. However, the second condition is not satisfied because:

     12 = 1 + 2 + 3 + 6

so 12 can be expressed as the sum of a subset of its proper divisors. Therefore 12 is not a weird number.

For the case of n=70, the proper divisors of 70 are 1, 2, 5, 7, 10, 14, and 35. The first condition is satisfied becasuse these sum to 74, which is greater than 70. The second condition is satisfied because there is no subset of the proper divisors that sums to exactly 70. Therefore 70 is a weird number

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1999-06-02 at 20:36:26ID10167606
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by: laeuchliPosted on 1999-06-02 at 21:49:27ID: 1262221

I don't get what you want me to do. Do you want me to get some code that check if a number is a weird number? Do you want me to write code that trys to get weird numbers?

Please write back.

 

by: laeuchliPosted on 1999-06-02 at 21:51:12ID: 1262222

Also whats unsloved about weird numbers?

 

by: yonatPosted on 1999-06-03 at 00:52:57ID: 1262223

He probably means that a wierd number generator is NP.

 

by: laeuchliPosted on 1999-06-03 at 03:27:49ID: 1262224

Try this:
//weird.cpp
#include<iostream>
#include<vector>
using namespace std;
typedef vector<int, allocator<int> > INTVECT;
#include"numclass.h"
INTVECT vects(9000);
INTVECT vects2(9000);
Properdiv::Properdiv()
{
}
Properdiv::Properdiv(int i)
{
      num=2;
      int ibackup=i;
      float test2;
      float devi=i;
      int test;
      int v=0;
      do{
     test=i/num;
       test2=devi/num;
       if(test==test2)
       {
       v++;
     vects[v]=test;
       }
       num++;
        }while(num!=i+1);
}
Properdiv::~Properdiv()
{
}
void main()
{
int global=0;
int numofglobal=0;
int t=0;
int backupt;
int last=0;
cout<<"Enter number to start looking for wierd numbers at"<<endl;
cin>>t;
cout<<"Enter the last number to check"<<endl;
cin>>last;
do
{
int flags=0;
int t3=0;
int z;
int comp=0;
int numof=0;
int testiswierd=0;
int testiswierd2;
backupt=t;
Properdiv div(t);
t=backupt;
for(z=0;z<t;z++)
{
if(vects[z]==comp)
{
comp=vects[z];
}
else
{
numof++;
comp=vects[z];
}
}
numof--;
z=0;
for(int i=0;i<=numof;i++)
{
testiswierd=testiswierd+vects[i];
}
testiswierd2=testiswierd-t;
for(int i2=0;i2!=numof;i2++)
{
t3=vects[i2];
if(t3==testiswierd2)
{
flags=1;
}
}
if(flags==1)
{
}
else
{
vects2[global]=t;
global++;
numofglobal++;
}
t++;
}while(t<last);
cout<<"These are weird numbers"<<endl;
for(int i3=0;i3!=numofglobal;i3++)
{
cout<<vects2[i3]<<endl;
}
int ahh;
cin>>ahh;
}
//weird.h
class Properdiv
{
private:
int num;
public:
Properdiv();
Properdiv(int i);
~Properdiv();
};
I think this should work.
Compile and give it a try.


 

by: yairyPosted on 1999-06-03 at 06:38:53ID: 1262225

it is a very SIMPLE problem to impleament a solution.
the COMPLEXCITY is NPC.
I would say O(2^n) because you should scan all subsets
of a group and there are 2^n subsets in a group...

to write a solution from large n's - its a different story.

Yair

 

by: yairyPosted on 1999-06-03 at 13:40:14ID: 1262226

it's O(2^p)
p - num of dividers...

and again NPC...

 

by: ozoPosted on 1999-06-03 at 14:20:30ID: 1262227

But number of divisors is o(log n) so it's pseudo polynomial

Non-wierd is obviously NP, but it's not so obvious how to get a polynomial certificate of weirdness.
nd how do you get from there to NPC?

 

by: laeuchliPosted on 1999-06-03 at 17:47:53ID: 1262228

Whats a NPC? I don't get it. Anyway did anyone try my code? I think it works.


 

by: FuzzyLogicPosted on 1999-06-04 at 04:07:07ID: 1262229

NPC is Non Polynomial (Complete). I think that what yair ment was NP. It means that the algorithm takes exponential time to finish the calculation.

About your code: Have you checked it?
I could not compile it in my machine, and I think it does not check all the posibilities:
1. You did not put 1 as proper devisor.
2. I don't think you are passing in the inner loop on all the possible devisors sums.

Yair:
It is possible to check many less than all the subsets of the devisors. Since thay are ordered, certain subsets may not be checked.

I can try write more efficient code, if babyruth would ask.

Fuzzy

 

by: ozoPosted on 1999-06-04 at 10:21:55ID: 1262230

NP-Complete is Nondeterministic Polynomial Complete

 

by: yairyPosted on 1999-06-04 at 11:25:05ID: 1262231

Fuzzy,

Do you agree that on the WORST case we will check all
subsets (though they are orderd...) ?

Yair



 

by: yairyPosted on 1999-06-08 at 03:49:27ID: 1262232

VERY IMPORTANT !!!

about the proposed program:

it is enough to check dividors for number N
up to SQRT(N) !
all the other dividors are their pairs (very easy to do
N/(dividor)=(his pair))

it will reduce complexcity very much !!!
Yair

 

by: laeuchliPosted on 1999-06-08 at 17:42:57ID: 1262233

Yeah sorry, I wasn't thinking. Also to get the code to work you have to change numof-- to numof++
sorry.

 

by: ozoPosted on 1999-06-08 at 19:25:27ID: 1262234

If the time complexity is dominated by the 2^(number of divisors) search,
a speedup in finding the divisors won't reduce it very much.

 

by: yairyPosted on 1999-06-09 at 04:12:53ID: 1262235

Theoretically yes, practically it will help on Medium
numbers ...
:-)
Yair

 

by: yairyPosted on 1999-06-20 at 16:57:57ID: 1262236

about our NP - NPC dicastion:

today we learned that proberly NP != NPC but noboday knows
for sure, they might be the same.

what is special about NPC is that it a family
inside NP problems that you can do redaction with Polynomial cost from one problem to another...
(so if one is solved in P - all will be)

that was 60 seconds on NP and NPC ....

Yair
:)
 

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