Question

Named global memory that survives an app crash.

Asked by: ThomasHolz

I'd like to access some form global memory (under Windows / C++) which survives the crash of my app.

The idea behind this is:
  - To have a very fast medium for logging purposes
  - That can be read after the program has been restarted after a crash

How can I this? I tried several IPC things, but none of them seemed to work.

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2007-01-22 at 06:33:08ID22131484
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by: shajithchandranPosted on 2007-01-22 at 06:52:03ID: 18365565

May be you can try this, Iam not sure how helpful this be.

1. When the application is started for the first time, let the application spawn a new process. This new process will just be running in a infinite while loop. Let the new process create a shared memory region. The idea is to keep this new process as simple as possible so that it will never crash.
2. The application can attach to this shared memory. And can be used for logging.
3. When the application crashes, the shared memory region will be not destroyied since the other process is still attached.
4. When the application is restarted, it will check if the process is running. If yes, then if can again attach to the shared memory and analyse the previous logs.

Shaj

 

by: ThomasHolzPosted on 2007-01-22 at 07:00:12ID: 18365611

Thanks, that will probably work. But I was trying to avoid the second process. Especially when a proram isn't working propertly and customers that messing with tasks, terminating processes etc, this might cause extra problems and questions...

Is there a way without a second process?

 

by: jkrPosted on 2007-01-22 at 08:10:48ID: 18366286

>>Is there a way without a second process?

You could try to piggyback a system process, such as explorer.exe by inserting a DLL (see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/197571 - "Working with the AppInit_DLLs registry value" ) that launches a thread upon loading and allocates the sahred memory area.

 

by: ThomasHolzPosted on 2007-01-22 at 08:23:19ID: 18366410

> You could try to piggyback a system process, such as explorer.exe by inserting a DLL
Ouch. The system was meant to run on all systems/configurations without causing problems. Injecting a DLL isn't the way here, sorry...

 

by: jkrPosted on 2007-01-22 at 08:36:02ID: 18366541

Then you will need a 2nd process. BTW, what I suggested is not more dangerous than providing a context menu handler like e.g. WinZip does, otherwise I would not have come up with this idea.

 

by: shajithchandranPosted on 2007-01-22 at 09:50:03ID: 18367178

May be you can mmap a file and start writing in to the memory directly. That way it will be fast. And then you can install a signal handler for the crashing signal (SIGILL, SIGKILL , SEGSEGV...). In the signal handler you can munmap the file. This can working unix , i am not sure about window.

 

by: itsmeandnobodyelsePosted on 2007-01-22 at 11:10:29ID: 18368058

>>>> To have a very fast medium for logging purposes

Did you try logging at disk, opening and closing the logfile each time? Nowadays hard disks are very very fast so you should get no performance issues for normal applications. You could use a tracing threshold which can be controled from outside of the program to control the amount of log message.

If you need faster you could use a RAM disk. It wasn't used often in these days but it still works and I bet it  will work at VISTA as well.

Regards, Alex

 

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by: Computer101Posted on 2008-04-27 at 06:05:16ID: 21449032

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