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Determine physical CPU count for a computer using C#

Asked by: jmiller47

I am writing a simple asset management application to collect information about remote computers and store the information in a database for reporting. I am mostly using WMI to collect the information.

The issue I am having is that no matter how I try to collect the CPU count, I get back incorrect information. Because of the introduction of Hyperthreading and Dual Core CPUs, the CPU counts show double or even quadruple CPU counts. For example, if a computer has 2 physical CPUs and have hyperthreading enabled, the CPU count will show as 4 CPUs. If the same computer is using Dual Core CPUs with Hyperthreading enabled, the CPU count will be 8. This is the number shown anywhere you look in the operating system is also skewed by dual core and hyperthreaded CPUs.

Does anyone have any idea of a way I can determine the real physical CPU count?

Thanks in adavance!

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Answers

 

by: jmiller47Posted on 2006-11-25 at 11:50:09ID: 18012329

It appears that this is a C# client applications that calls a C++ coded compiled DLL. In this case, it would be C++ that is determining the CPU counts. Do you how this might convert to C# or another way?  I would rather not reference any external DLLs and only use the built -in .NET framework.

Thanks!

 

by: NightmanPosted on 2006-11-25 at 11:57:28ID: 18012356

I'll be honest, you got me intrigued, so I have been doing some googling since I posted this. This is the best sample I could find that uses C#. The C++ is managed C++, so is native .NET anyway, but I suspect that this is not properly exposed in .NET.

It is also possible that the sample in that article does not accurately count the cores, but I don't have a DC machine with me right now to test it.

If I find more, I will post here.

 

by: ostdpPosted on 2006-11-25 at 15:34:52ID: 18012869

You can use

            ManagementClass mc = new ManagementClass("Win32_Processor");
            ManagementObjectCollection moc = mc.GetInstances();

to get the WMI information on the processors.


Have a look in the System.Management documnetation.

 

by: jmiller47Posted on 2006-11-25 at 16:31:53ID: 18012959

Thanks ostdp,
However, that returns the logical, not the physical processor count. I am very familiar on the WMI object model, however, it appears that you cannot return the physical count, only the logical count. If there is a way to convert that C++ code to C#, that would defnitely suffice.

Thanks

 

by: Expert1701Posted on 2006-11-26 at 13:49:21ID: 18015528

> If the same computer is using Dual Core CPUs with Hyperthreading enabled, the CPU count will be 8.

  I don't believe this is true.  I am running a single Dual-Core processor with Hyperthreading and the CPU count is only 2 (not 4).

> If there is a way to convert that C++ code to C#, that would defnitely suffice.

  No, because it uses assembly.  You can easily use the C++ DLL in your application as demonstrated by the Code Project article.

Having said that, here is a pure C# solution that should work:

(modified from) Detect Hyperthreading in C# using WMI
http://www.xmilk.com/Home/tabid/36/EntryID/11/Default.aspx

  using System;
  using System.Collections;
  using System.Management;
  using System.Runtime.InteropServices;

  class Program
  {
    static void Main()
    {
      Console.WriteLine("Logical CPUs:  " + Environment.ProcessorCount);
      Console.WriteLine("Physical CPUs: " + PhysicalProcessorCount());
      Console.ReadLine();
    }

    static int PhysicalProcessorCount()
    {
      ArrayList processors = new ArrayList();

      foreach (ManagementObject mo in new ManagementClass("Win32_Processor").GetInstances())
      {
        string id = (string)mo.Properties["ProcessorId"].Value;

        if (!processors.Contains(id))
          processors.Add(id);
      }

      return processors.Count;
    }
  }

Returns the following on my system:

  Logical CPUs:  2
  Physical CPUs: 1

 

by: jmiller47Posted on 2006-11-27 at 10:52:54ID: 18021502

Expert1701 ,
It appears that this code only reads the ProcessorID using WMI and counts all the unique instances. However, on a PowerEdge 6650, Xeon, Quad Proc server, this only returned 1 processor. When looking over the Processor ID in WMI (Win32_Processor), I can find 8 instances of processors, all of them have the same ProcessorID. This is why when I ran the utility, it only returned 1 processor.

 

by: jmiller47Posted on 2006-11-27 at 10:57:14ID: 18021541

It also appears that if I were to use the C++ compiled dll, I would not be able to check the CPU count remotely, as it does not have an interface for that. I need to be able to connect to hundreds of servers and remotely determine the physical CPU count.

I hope that helps.

Thanks!

 

by: Expert1701Posted on 2006-11-27 at 11:21:33ID: 18021760

Can you examine the other properties for something that is unique?

 

by: jmiller47Posted on 2006-11-27 at 11:27:18ID: 18021812

That is the problem. I have looked at all of the Win32_Processor WMI properties and not found anything that is unique to physical processors. I am looking for any other possibilities.

Thanks!

 

by: Expert1701Posted on 2006-11-27 at 11:32:41ID: 18021856

What operating system is that PowerEdge 6650 running?

 

by: jmiller47Posted on 2006-11-27 at 11:36:40ID: 18021887

Windows 2003 SP1

 

by: jmiller47Posted on 2006-11-27 at 13:49:04ID: 18022967

OK, Thanks everyone. I finally got this working. In the spirit of sharing, this is what I have. So far, it appears to work. I will be running a test tonight against all servers and comparing that data with the purchase orders (they are on paper and they specify the real processor count, I wanted something automated though...)

I found that the SocketDesignation property from the Win32_Processor class has which physical socket the CPU is located in. If there are more than one logical CPUs using a single socket, I can ignore that duplicate (it is a virtual CPU). I used the same code that Expert1701 provided exchanging ProcessorID with SocketDesignation.

I will keep the Q open until tomorrow until I can verify this works on all servers. If this does work, i will award the points to Expert1702

Thanks everyone!


--------- Begin code snippet here -------------------------------------------------------
using System;
  using System.Collections;
  using System.Management;
  using System.Runtime.InteropServices;

  class Program
  {
    static void Main()
    {
      Console.WriteLine("Logical CPUs:  " + Environment.ProcessorCount);
      Console.WriteLine("Physical CPUs: " + PhysicalProcessorCount());
      Console.ReadLine();
    }

    static int PhysicalProcessorCount()
    {
      ArrayList processors = new ArrayList();

      foreach (ManagementObject mo in new ManagementClass("Win32_Processor").GetInstances())
      {
        string id = (string)mo.Properties["SocketDesignation"].Value;

        if (!processors.Contains(id))
          processors.Add(id);
      }

      return processors.Count;
    }
  }
--------- End code snippet here -------------------------------------------------------

 

by: jmiller47Posted on 2006-11-27 at 14:52:27ID: 18023491

I tested and verified this. this works as planned.

Thank you everyone!

 

by: Expert1701Posted on 2006-11-27 at 15:29:09ID: 18023734

Just out of curiosity, what types of values does SocketDesignation have on a multi-processor system?

 

by: jmiller47Posted on 2006-11-27 at 15:31:40ID: 18023768

Here is a sample:
-----------------------------------
Win32_Processor instance
-----------------------------------
SocketDesignation: PROC_1
-----------------------------------
Win32_Processor instance
-----------------------------------
SocketDesignation: PROC_2
-----------------------------------
Win32_Processor instance
-----------------------------------
SocketDesignation: PROC_3
-----------------------------------
Win32_Processor instance
-----------------------------------
SocketDesignation: PROC_4
-----------------------------------
Win32_Processor instance
-----------------------------------
SocketDesignation: PROC_1
-----------------------------------
Win32_Processor instance
-----------------------------------
SocketDesignation: PROC_1
-----------------------------------
Win32_Processor instance
-----------------------------------
SocketDesignation: PROC_1
-----------------------------------
Win32_Processor instance
-----------------------------------
SocketDesignation: PROC_1

 

by: jmiller47Posted on 2006-11-27 at 15:34:40ID: 18023788

FYI - That shows 8 logical instances but only 4 unique socket designations. This means that out of the 8 logical processors in the system, they are only using 4 physical sockets. That means that 4 processors are physically installed.

 

by: Expert1701Posted on 2006-11-27 at 15:35:23ID: 18023791

Thanks for the great response, jmiller47!

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