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MSN and Altavista API's

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How to get MSN and Altavista API's for the search engine as that of getting the Google API.

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2005-09-04 at 22:28:11ID21550762
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Answers

 

by: TimYatesPosted on 2005-09-05 at 01:56:51ID: 14822315

I don't believe either of those two do an API.

Just Google do one

As far as I know...

Tim

 

by: TimYatesPosted on 2005-09-05 at 01:57:02ID: 14822316

Oh, and yahoo does too...

 

by: matthewdflemingPosted on 2005-09-07 at 11:37:36ID: 14839105

You could make your own simple "query api" pretty easily..

For MSN just make a URL encoded request to:
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=whatever+you+want

For Altavista it is very similar:
http://www.altavista.com/web/results?q=link+to+altavista+search

 

by: ephrontechPosted on 2005-09-11 at 21:22:54ID: 14861662

Mr.Matthewdfleming
        I need the ranking of the site for the particular keyword, Not the result page.
ie., if i give the keyword as java and i give the site name as "www.java.com". If after search for that keyword if it finds the sitemap name it should return the place position of the site is listed.

thanks

 

by: matthewdflemingPosted on 2005-09-11 at 21:55:57ID: 14861764

Ahh yes.. well it looks like there are a plethora of free sites that do this already..
http://www.e-axis-inc.com/rank/
http://www.googlerankings.com/

If you were to do it yourself.. all you need to do is make a search request with the term.. then page through the results to test for the url. It shouldn't be too hard.. But why write it when you can just use an already existing site? :-)

 

by: ephrontechPosted on 2005-09-11 at 22:25:07ID: 14861839

Mr.Matthewdfleming,

        It was why i need is i don't want to depend on other sites and fear for whether that site will change their way i also want to change my way.
 
         Can you tell me a sample code for getting the ranking position for a particular keyword in a particular search engine exspecially for Lycos.com.

thanks

 

by: matthewdflemingPosted on 2005-09-11 at 22:34:04ID: 14861867

I think you will have to write your own program to submit the search, and parse results.

Check out the jakarta http client for an easy to use java http client @ http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/tutorial.html.  You could also use something like JMeter (http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/index.html) to sample (in the JMeter vernacular) web pages and follow links.  It even has a record feature so you could just click what you wanted to do in a browser and it would remember.

 

by: ephrontechPosted on 2005-09-11 at 22:50:29ID: 14861907


Ya Mr.Matthewdfleming,
 
       The same approach i done using http unit. But the thing in it is i just read the page of the particular site and i want to scrap the data. Instead of that i need to do is just if i give the keyword and the website name to find by giving the particular search engine name i want the ranking position in my application.

    Hoping for the positive result.

thanks

 

by: ephrontechPosted on 2005-09-13 at 21:17:39ID: 14878167

Can any one have the idea to get the ranking of our site in a particular search engine for the specific keyword by means of direct  coding in java

thanks

 

by: TimYatesPosted on 2005-09-14 at 01:13:04ID: 14878960

The Expert colr__ did have a program that did that:

See here:

http:Q_21523592.html#14651974

Maybe posting a comment in that question, you could ask him if it's still available?

Tim

 

by: colr__Posted on 2005-09-14 at 04:08:11ID: 14879641

Hi ephrontech,

I've put up a link to the app here: http://www.colin-reid.co.uk/JSEDistributable.rar. Please let me know when you've got it so I can take it down again.

To compile, run c.bat under the soft directory. To run, simply run run.bat in the top level directory.

The app works for Google, Yahoo, MSN, AltaVista and Alltheweb. At present msn.co.uk isn't working cause they've got a 302 redirect in place which the app cant handle (for the time being).

Although it doesnt cater for Lycos, it's been designed to eaily plug in more Search Engines. To add a new engine, place engine code in the soft\JSE\Search\Engines\Parsed directory similar to the others (they all follow the same format except Yahoo which is slightly different - these classes are primarily concerned with generating URLs and parsing the retrieved documents. Once this is done, register your new class in soft\JSE\SearchEngineBox.java. And thats it!

When you start up the app, put some keywords and domain names in the search fields and let it run - itll then prompt you for a save location, wher it outputs an HTML report of the ranks found.

Hope this helps, and feedback would be appreciated (and any code developed for Lycos).

colr__

 

by: colr__Posted on 2005-09-14 at 04:10:07ID: 14879648

btw I didnt use the Googe API because the returned results are different from the public facing website searches.

colr__

 

by: ephrontechPosted on 2005-09-14 at 04:56:02ID: 14879901

Mr.colr
   
    I got your app. I will try it

thanks a lot
please make contact with me for the doubt i have next on this

 

by: colr__Posted on 2005-09-14 at 05:01:54ID: 14879939

Sorry, Can you say this again, not sure what you mean here:

>> please make contact with me for the doubt i have next on this

colr__

 

by: ephrontechPosted on 2005-09-14 at 05:29:33ID: 14880090

Mr.Colr,

     I got your application and i run it. It is very nice. But the thing is you used a scraping method to get the page. I made the same thing using http unit(like Http Client). But the thing is if they(search engine site) change the site (ie., if suppose in MSN instead of <div id=result> if they change to <div id=final page>) we can't get the expected result. If we use this we have to be aware of the search engine site every time whether they are changing their site. So, instead of scraping, is their any way to get the rank of our site from the desired search engine.Because i want to include this as a part in my application.(Whether i got your coding functionality correctly or i mistaken it. If so, sorry for  my comment).

please contact.

thanks

 

by: TimYatesPosted on 2005-09-14 at 05:34:28ID: 14880126

>> So, instead of scraping, is their any way to get the rank of our site from the desired search engine

As has been said before, if you want to just use Google, then you can use their API

As the other sites don't have an API, you have to use the scraping method

 

by: ephrontechPosted on 2005-09-14 at 05:40:41ID: 14880171

Mr.TimYates

     Are you sure there is no way of getting our rank rather than scraping from our desired search engine.

 

by: colr__Posted on 2005-09-14 at 05:57:11ID: 14880280

It wont be possible to get "real" results without calling an instance of the web page that displays these results, i.e. by scraping.

The only alternative to the API is therefore scraping. There is no other way to immitate a normal user request than having your app make the request for you in the same way.

Both google and Yahoo have APIs, but as Ive said they dont provide the same search results as the public websites.

colr__

 

by: TimYatesPosted on 2005-09-14 at 06:12:13ID: 14880400

>> Are you sure there is no way of getting our rank rather than scraping from our desired search engine.

No...you can use an API (as I said)

But only Google has one

(and Yahoo as colr__ points out -- cheers fella, always forget that one)

 

by: matthewdflemingPosted on 2005-09-14 at 07:01:59ID: 14880857

I think the answer is simple..
Use an API (Google, Yahoo): No manual http parsing/requesting
Use a browser: The browser could be written in Java, but you will need to parse the responses (aka scraping) to determine a) your rank and b) the "next" link.

The thing that always stinks about scraping is the maintenance of the scrapers.. But in this case, how hard is it really to change the link finder? and how many times a year do the engines change their pages?

If you really don't want to do the scraping maintenance, use an SEO company and pay for someone to do it for you! ;-)

 

by: ephrontechPosted on 2005-09-14 at 21:32:07ID: 14886780

Mr.Matthewdfleming, Mr.Col, and Mr.TimYates,

               Thanks a lot for your worthful answers for me. But what i thought can't be achieved by me.

thanks

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