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What is the better processor to this config ? 2 choises both AMD

Asked by: Rebelss

memory Desktop Corsair Xms2 Ddr2 1066mhz 2gb
latency 5-6-6-18   2.10V

Motherboard Asus M3a78

My question is, what is the better processor to this config,
remember i'll use computer only for work

all the time i'll use delphi / corel draw / dreamweaver / flash
but most important is delphi, what is the BETTER/FASTER processor to compile codes in delphi ?

Processador Amd Phenom 9650 X4 2.3ghz Quad Core
4-nuclear 2.3ghz
Hyper Transports
3600MHz
L2 Cache
4 x 512KB
L3 Cache
2MB
Manufacturing Tech
65 nm

or

Processador Amd Phenom Ii X2 550
2-nucelar processor 3.1 GHZ
Hyper Transport       
4000MHz
L1 Cache Size (KB) 128
L1 Cache Count  
L2 Cache Size (KB) 512
L2 Cache Count  
L3 Cache Size (KB) 6144
CMOS 45nm SOI

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2009-11-06 at 14:52:55ID24879560
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ADM DELPHI

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PROCESSOR PHENOM COMPILE

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Personal Computers

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Computer CPU Processors

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by: senadPosted on 2009-11-06 at 15:08:45ID: 25763889

second one....
no app. that can benefit from quad architecture right now.

 

by: davorinPosted on 2009-11-06 at 15:37:53ID: 25764043

vote for II

 

by: garycasePosted on 2009-11-06 at 15:54:48ID: 25764132

The Phenom X2 550 scores 1819 on PassMark's CPUMark, an excellent measure of CPU "horsepower".     The 9650 X4 scores 2579.    So from a system perspective the 9650 is clearly a better choice, with 42% more CPU power.

However, Delphi compilation is single threaded, so the faster cores of the 550 may provide a slight advantage in compile time.   It's difficult to say definitively without actually benchmarking it, because the extra cores in an X4 will be used by Windows for other functions, so you may still find an improvement even with the single compilation thread.

... and the X4 would certainly be faster when you're running all of the applications you've listed together (delphi / corel draw / dreamweaver / flash)  ==>  simply because the OS can spread the load among 4 cores instead of 2.

I'd go with the X4 -- the faster overall system will almost certainly be the most satisfying for overall performance ... and any difference in Delphi compilation times is not likely to be significant.

 

by: senadPosted on 2009-11-06 at 18:08:48ID: 25764666

most (almost all) applications and games are single threaded.So the quad core will assign your thread to one core which in itself is not fast enough.
So its better to have one Ferrari than 4 Mercedes Benz.

 

by: tankergoblinPosted on 2009-11-06 at 18:13:32ID: 25764689

i think AMD Phenom II X2 550 if the rate shown by ISoul is correct. (which one is cheaper then take which one).

i use athlon duo core it run perfectly. if you just using your pc to do as mention above then i believe is ok.

 

by: epasquierPosted on 2009-11-07 at 01:14:44ID: 25765534

>> GaryCase : ... and the X4 would certainly be faster when you're running all of the applications you've listed together (delphi / corel draw / dreamweaver / flash)  ==>  simply because the OS can spread the load among 4 cores instead of 2.

In theory, Yes. In real world, it's difficult to compile (which is quick in Delphi) and do some operations both in Corel Draw an Dreamweaver at the same time. The CPU might be able to do many tasks but you still have one mouse, one keyboard and one set of eyes. To work efficiently with all those app OPEN at the same time, memory is more the Key than CPU power.

That said, you wont see any difference under Delphi with either of those modern CPU. dreamweaver and corel draw could benefit from 2 cores, maybe have something to gain from 4. But that is unsure.

I Would take the X2 550 as it has better cache and better perf per core which is what you need. You could always switch to a 6 core when they'll get out next year,if you feel the need for it

 

by: garycasePosted on 2009-11-07 at 10:46:09ID: 25767504

Most multi-tasking isn't a function of "doing" multiple things (with the mouse/keyboard/eyes), but of background processes that are occuring in those applications' open windows.     As long as they're all open, they're consuming resources -- and yes, memory is certainly important as well -- if you have too little memory and generate excessive page faults that will slow any system down ... no matter how fast the CPU or how many cores.

But in most scenarios the quad system will have a better "feel" to it.     As I mentioned, however, the difference is subtle ... either processor listed here would be just fine.    I've built several systems where I eleted to simply use dual cores vs. quads ... but this is generally an electrical power/heat related decision -- not a CPU power choice.    The quads always outperform the duals, even with single-threaded apps ==> I've got several audio and video processing utilities that are single-threaded,  and use these to time the performance on various systems.

 

by: ThievingSixPosted on 2009-11-07 at 12:13:47ID: 25767830

No app can benefit? What?

Instead of trying to restate exactly what garycase said, I'll just tell you to re-read it.

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