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Using the same select data twice in a query

Asked by: KurtVon

I have a table containing row, col, and value data, and need to do a selection to filter out rows based on a (col, value) pairs.  I know the select to do this is

SELECT * FROM x WHERE row IN (SELECT row FROM x WHERE col = 'name' AND value = 'John') AND row IN (...) AND etc.

The problem is that in my case x is a very cost intensive select call itself, and I'd like to avoid assembling a temporary table if I can.  I tried the obvious

SELECT * FROM x AS T WHERE row IN (SELECT row FROM T WHERE col = 'name' AND value = 'John')

but sadly it didn't work, complaining T was undefined.

So I'm looking for either a way to reduce the enormous redundancy quoting all of x will cause or a better way to filter the rows.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

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2008-07-25 at 13:27:32ID23596739
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Answers

 

by: matthewrhoadesPosted on 2008-07-25 at 13:36:15ID: 22092092

Could you include a couple records from each table?  With the variable column and table names it is a little bit difficult to interpret.  Sounds to me like you are going to be looking for a join statement to me, possibly to a system table if you are trying to determine column names.

 

by: KurtVonPosted on 2008-07-25 at 13:52:53ID: 22092216

Sure, the data table could look like the table below.

So, for example, I need to return all the data in rows where column A is q and column B is r.

SELECT * FROM data WHERE row IN ( SELECT row FROM data WHERE col = 'A' AND value = 'q' ) AND row IN (SELECT row FROM data WHERE col = 'B' AND value = 'r' );

Which in this case would return all columns from only row 1.

Not horrible, but a little messy.  What makes it horrible is that the data table is really created with something like

SELECT x.row, x.col, y.value FROM x INNER JOIN ( SELECT max(index), value FROM z GROUP BY value ) AS y ON x.index = y.index

which I really don't want to substitute three times into the first query.

+-----+-----+-------+
| row | col | value |
+-----+-----+-------+
|  1  |  A  |   q   |
|  1  |  B  |   r   |
|  1  |  C  |   s   |
|  2  |  A  |   q   |
|  2  |  B  |   t   |
|  2  |  C  |   u   |
+-----+-----+-------+
                                              
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by: matthewrhoadesPosted on 2008-07-25 at 15:12:24ID: 22092676

I see your dilemma.  Unfortunately, this is what temporary tables are for.  Outside of SQL in OO programming you would use a data set or a recordset to deal with this kind of iterative evaluation.  Within the confines of the query analyzer, or whatever tool you are using directly to interact with your database, you are limited to using temporary tables.

At least, that is my take on it.  Someone else might have a better answer, but I don't see it.  

 

by: KurtVonPosted on 2008-07-28 at 05:47:07ID: 22102505

So are you suggesting I should filter in JDBC?  Technically I am still assembling the table from the recordsets, so filtering out the values wouldn't be too difficult there.

My main resistance to doing that is the assumption that MySQL, being tuned for it, would be much more efficient at stripping unwanted rows.

 

by: matthewrhoadesPosted on 2008-07-28 at 08:58:12ID: 22104325

If you do the stripping of data through JDBC you will greatly limit the number of trips you have to make to the database, and that is what you are looking for when you are talking about performance tuning queries (At least in this case).

You would also be using client side resources to process the data, rather than server side, which will help you greatly in high traffic data environments.

Some experts might disagree with me on this seeing as how you are grabbing more data initially than you will ever need, but I think you will get much better performance filtering the data at the application level.

 

by: KurtVonPosted on 2008-07-28 at 13:22:51ID: 22106504

Well, the JDBC process is on the same machine in this case, but yeah, when performance becomes a bottleneck I could split them.  Right now the network is the tightest resource since even with filtering I will be returning 20,000 rows, ten columns.

This all may be irrelevant since preliminary benchmarks are indicating everything is too slow even without filtering.

 

by: matthewrhoadesPosted on 2008-07-28 at 14:06:27ID: 22106815

20,000 rows and 10 columns shouldn't produce a terrible burden on resources.  Looking at what you have laid out I think that the biggest killer is the data set up.  You need to make sure that your tables are properly indexed, any field you are searching regularly the way you are  should be considered for indexing.

Proper indexes will make your data access much faster, just read up on them and make sure your indexes don't get larger than the tables themselves.

 

by: KurtVonPosted on 2008-07-28 at 14:24:54ID: 22106946

Well, looks like "You can't do that" is indeed the answer.

You've been more than patient while I waited to see if anything else would turn up, thanks.

I'll give the indexes a try, but the 1/2 second is way too long for what we need unless scaling to 1 million doesn't change that number, and I doubt indexing will give a 10x improvement.  It may be something other than a DB solution is what's needed.

 

by: matthewrhoadesPosted on 2008-07-28 at 14:27:22ID: 22106967

You might be surprised by the performance increase with indexing.  I have seen query times go from 10 seconds to less than a second.  Give it a shot, consider any field that is being frequently accessed, especially fields that are matched by text vs.  numeric.  

 

by: KurtVonPosted on 2008-07-28 at 14:28:44ID: 22106977

Heh, for benchmarking I'll just index everything and then try cutting back.  This is all still experimental at this point.

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