Hello all,
I just found an old post from mozillazine that support for IE's document.all was coming up in later releases of Mozilla/Firefox.
It's been about 8 months since that post, and FF 1.0 has been out for awhile now.
Did this ever come to pass? I mocked up a quick JS using document.all that works in IE, but not in Moz/FF, so I'm guessing not.
Has anyone else seen document.all samples that work outside of IE?
Curious, thanks.
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I agree, why hack document.all if there are perfectly useable functions that are universal?
But I ran across this today mentioning document.all and Moz/FF:
http://www.mozillazine.org
The reason I ask is that I'm trying to discourage use of document.all by our developers to improve cross-browser functionality.
If document.all had been implemented in Moz/FF as well, that pretty much kills my argument right there.
Good point,
And from what I can tell ... document.all is currently supported in Moz/FF ... news to me. I can understand the point of putting it in there to support idiot coders that do checks like if (document.all) do it right ... otherwise ... do it wrong or not at all, like display a message that says your browser is not supported.
However, I think the world is making headway towards a standards based web ... I would say that the use of document.all in Moz/FF will one day be deprecated ... but in the mean time many compromises are still made for the slop that exists out there.
How are you checking for document.all support?
Like I said, I read the post(s) about it, so I did a simple script to grab the div tags in my document and count them.
var elementArray = document.all.tags("div");
var arraySize = elementArray.length;
alert(arraySize);
In IE it works, in FF I get nothing. Same for a simple: if(document.all){alert("Th
Now, if I switch over to document.getElementsByTagN
So, where is this document.all support?
I just did the following:
1. In FireFox I go to Tools -> JavaScript Console
2. In the eval bar I enter: document.all
3. Click the Evaluate button
Here is what I get:
WARNING Non-Standard document.all property was used. Use W3C standard document.getElementById() instead.
INFO [object HTML document.all class]
Firefox 1.0 support what is called an "undetected" document.all
If you do something like:
if {document.all) alert('true') else alert('false');
It will return false because you tested for it;
if you do something like alert(document.all['someid
it will return the code by converting it to document.getElementById('s
The purpose of the hack is not to support document.all which still does not exist in the Ff DOM, it is just a workaround to keep badly coded IE specific pages from breaking because of te non-standard reference.
My understanding is that it will also part of the Mozilla 1.8 release, which brings Ff and MOZ back onto the same code branch.
Cd&
Great, both of you were a big help. My argument for minimizing the use of document.all is still intact, and I've been saved a bit of a headache...at least for the next 30 seconds or so.
Cd, thanks as always for the clarification. dfu23, thanks for picking through this with me via the JavaScript console.
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by: dfu23Posted on 2005-02-07 at 07:15:14ID: 13245083
document.all is an Internet Explorer specific thing that is not a W3C DOM standard which is the standards that Maz/FF follow. You could write a JS statement to hack things and make document.all work in Moz/FF (document.getElementById) ... but what's the point?