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Which Java IDE is best???
Hi guys
4 Years Back I have used Visual Semantec Cafe, Because Of JBuilder features compared to Cafe I have started using jBuilder since 2001. Just started understanding Eclipse
I have already seen lots of links.
But I want your personal experiences and why you think your chosen IDE is best when compared to others.
Thanks
Sudhakar
4 Years Back I have used Visual Semantec Cafe, Because Of JBuilder features compared to Cafe I have started using jBuilder since 2001. Just started understanding Eclipse
I have already seen lots of links.
But I want your personal experiences and why you think your chosen IDE is best when compared to others.
Thanks
Sudhakar
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What is the advantage of Intellij over JBuilder?
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> Notepad being my 2nd favourite ;)
=-) that was my very 1st favorite before when I was starting in Java, he he he
=-) that was my very 1st favorite before when I was starting in Java, he he he
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> Notepad being my 2nd favourite ;)
Yep
In my company our programmers use EditPlus/Notepad for Small Projects :-)
OK
for debugging JSPs, struts which IDE is best?
Yep
In my company our programmers use EditPlus/Notepad for Small Projects :-)
OK
for debugging JSPs, struts which IDE is best?
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>> It's from IBM which control Rational (I believe you know RationalRose) and many plug-in for Websphere could be used in it.
That's what.... WSAD is a super-set of Eclipse, but with many more advanced features, and surprisingly fast.
That's what.... WSAD is a super-set of Eclipse, but with many more advanced features, and surprisingly fast.
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Agree,
infact I start my previous post with:
I believe the choice of one particular IDE for developping is more personal.
Giant.
infact I start my previous post with:
I believe the choice of one particular IDE for developping is more personal.
Giant.
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increased more 100 points for splitting
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increased to 500
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Thanks for participating in this thread :-)
:-)
Glad to be of help, but I can't help my curiostity...which one did you decide upon?
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Not yet decided
I jave downloaded all IDEs and testing the features.
As of now I am using JBuilder X, and found that IntelliJ and Eclipse are more or less similar to JBuilder X . They may contain less features in some aspects and more in some aspects.
So What I am thinking is if we have IDE which contains all the features of all IDEs then that may be the Best IDE. But we may not get such IDE ha ha haa :))
As per my current project specs I will stick up with JBuilder only. Because it is more than enough
But for future project only i should need eclipse IDE's features. So I may shift to that IDE
As tim yates said, It all depends on the specs and requirements of our projects. But if we have one universal IDE that would be good.
Anyways Thanks guys
Thanks
Sudhakar
I jave downloaded all IDEs and testing the features.
As of now I am using JBuilder X, and found that IntelliJ and Eclipse are more or less similar to JBuilder X . They may contain less features in some aspects and more in some aspects.
So What I am thinking is if we have IDE which contains all the features of all IDEs then that may be the Best IDE. But we may not get such IDE ha ha haa :))
As per my current project specs I will stick up with JBuilder only. Because it is more than enough
But for future project only i should need eclipse IDE's features. So I may shift to that IDE
As tim yates said, It all depends on the specs and requirements of our projects. But if we have one universal IDE that would be good.
Anyways Thanks guys
Thanks
Sudhakar
>> What I am thinking is if we have IDE which contains all the features of all IDEs then that may be the Best IDE
You can always try making one.... ;-)
You can always try making one.... ;-)
Or write new features for Eclipse (which is probably easier) ;-)
:)
;-)
Some interesting reading here:
https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/21050145/How-can-I-do-it-to-make-the-program-only-start-once-at-the-same-moment.html
- especially the comments after the author's own acknowledgement:
>> "I have successed my solution today with "sciuriware"'s method. "
Some interesting reading here:
https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/21050145/How-can-I-do-it-to-make-the-program-only-start-once-at-the-same-moment.html
- especially the comments after the author's own acknowledgement:
>> "I have successed my solution today with "sciuriware"'s method. "
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:)) That was just unneccessary discussion with JohnnyAffa
:)) That was just unneccessary discussion with JohnnyAffa
Just couldn't stand some of the words....
I used to use JBuilder for quite some time, some how it stopped working on my PC (I have a licensed copy). So I switched to Eclipse. Its now supported by IBM.
Here is why Eclipse is better than all other IDE's
It has all the features JBuilder has, IDE is much lighter than JBuilder.
More advanced features than JCreator.
JBuilder deletes all the contents of the classes folder before building the application. So if you have any .properties files they are deleted too.
Personally I trust any product supported by IBM.
Here is why Eclipse is better than all other IDE's
It has all the features JBuilder has, IDE is much lighter than JBuilder.
More advanced features than JCreator.
JBuilder deletes all the contents of the classes folder before building the application. So if you have any .properties files they are deleted too.
Personally I trust any product supported by IBM.
> Here is why Eclipse is better than all other IDE's
In your opinion
> JBuilder deletes all the contents of the classes folder before building the application. So if you have any .properties files they are deleted too.
Yeah, that's why you put them in the src directory...
In your opinion
> JBuilder deletes all the contents of the classes folder before building the application. So if you have any .properties files they are deleted too.
Yeah, that's why you put them in the src directory...
;) Glad to Help . . .
i don't see why eclipse is so popular, I hate these IDE's where you have to create a project. You can't just work with a few classes in a directory, no , that's not good enough. you have to create a damn project each time you want to write code, no matter how big or small the project is.
netbeans is slow, but by far the least irritating, it lets you get on with code, instead of wasting time setting up projects.
Go netbeans and jcreator.
netbeans is slow, but by far the least irritating, it lets you get on with code, instead of wasting time setting up projects.
Go netbeans and jcreator.
The purpose of the project is that you won't have everytime to load up all the source files. It might not be practical if you have only a couple of files, but for projects with dozens (even hundreds) of source files and with different settings each (different APIs, different config files etc) getting them all togetehr and re-configuring everything can waste you hours.
May be you never noticed, but the project in eclipse takes care that your sources are always balanced:
take away a method in one module (or missname it) and the (untouched) other module referencing it "starts to complain".
I love this!
;JOOP!
take away a method in one module (or missname it) and the (untouched) other module referencing it "starts to complain".
I love this!
;JOOP!
If it is causing too many problems for you, why not use another IDE.
I use eclipse for my projects and Gel for the useless stuff i like to make.
An IDE for each task, problem solved ;-)
I use eclipse for my projects and Gel for the useless stuff i like to make.
An IDE for each task, problem solved ;-)
does any body know where i can download Visual Semantec Cafe.
I extensively search for this link. But I was not able to find this at owner's site too :(
I extensively search for this link. But I was not able to find this at owner's site too :(
I think it has been discontinued.
I don't believe they make it any more...
BTW Visual Cafe was the *best* IDE I had ever used. It's a pitty they don't make it any more :(
Updates/fixes got slower and slower for it, people started slagging it off, and Symantec decided it was more trouble than it was worth, so they dropped it :-(
I think as well, they were worried about polluting their brand name, so got rid of anything non-antivirus/anti-intrusi on
I never tried it... but I wish I had now ;-)
I think as well, they were worried about polluting their brand name, so got rid of anything non-antivirus/anti-intrusi
I never tried it... but I wish I had now ;-)
me == borland-o-phile ;-)
Ohh :((
Atleast do you guys have old setups?? I need because along with Cafe they have released some visual components at that time. My client has used that components and he wants some modification in their components.
He is asking to use Cafe only :(
Atleast do you guys have old setups?? I need because along with Cafe they have released some visual components at that time. My client has used that components and he wants some modification in their components.
He is asking to use Cafe only :(
Originally it was developed by WebGain and then Symantec bought the rights... or something like that. I am not sure what exactly happened but I remember the version version of Visual Cafe was by WebGain, later on it was by Symantec.
> me == borland-o-phile ;-)
Aye, I can see that. You are always the first one to answer jbuilder-related questions :)
> me == borland-o-phile ;-)
Aye, I can see that. You are always the first one to answer jbuilder-related questions :)
>Atleast do you guys have old setups?? I need because along with Cafe they have released some
>visual components at that time. My client has used that components and he wants some modification
>in their components.
Nope, unfortunatelly. It's been more than three years since I last used it.
>visual components at that time. My client has used that components and he wants some modification
>in their components.
Nope, unfortunatelly. It's been more than three years since I last used it.
Has anyone heard any reviews of Borland JBuilder 2005?
NOTE! THat version says "Symantec" on the box, and as it went:
Symantec -> Webgain (BEA) -> Borland -> nobody
it's 3 companies old...so I have no idea if it's the version you need ;-)
Symantec -> Webgain (BEA) -> Borland -> nobody
it's 3 companies old...so I have no idea if it's the version you need ;-)
> Symantec -> Webgain (BEA) -> Borland -> nobody
Sorry:
Symantec -> Webgain (BEA) -> TogetherSoft -> Borland -> nobody
> Has anyone heard any reviews of Borland JBuilder 2005?
It's not out till next month... looks good though :-) full 1.5 support :-)
Sorry:
Symantec -> Webgain (BEA) -> TogetherSoft -> Borland -> nobody
> Has anyone heard any reviews of Borland JBuilder 2005?
It's not out till next month... looks good though :-) full 1.5 support :-)
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# Apptivity from Progress Software (http://apptivity.progress.com)
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# Cosmo Code from SGI (http://www.sgi.com/Products/cosmo/code/index.html)
# ED for Windows from Soft As It Gets (http://www.getsoft.com/ed_java.html)
# Elixir from Elixir Technology Pte Ltd (http://www.elixir.com.sg/)
# Free Builder from the FreeBuilder collective (http://www.freebuilder.com/)
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# PARTS for Java from ObjectShare(http://www.objectshare.com/p4j/p4j2info.htm)
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# SuperCede from SuperCede, Inc.(http://www.supercede.com/)
# Visaj from Imperial Software Technology(http://www.ist.co.uk)
# Vision Jade from Vision Software(http://www.vision-soft.com)
# VisualAge for Java from IBM(http://www.software.ibm.com/ad/vajava/)
# Visual Café from Symantec(http://cafe.symantec.com/)
# Visual J++ from Microsoft(http://www.microsoft.com/visualj/)
# Web Application Platform from SilverStream(http://www.silverstream.com/products/main/main_f.htm)
# Java WebIDE from Chami.com(http://www.chami.com/webide/)
# WipeOut from softwarebuero m&b(http://www.softwarebuero.de/wipeout-eng.html)
And ofcourse the other IDEs that are discussed in above comments along with notepad :-)
> # Visual Café from Symantec(http://cafe.symantec.com/)
> # Visual J++ from Microsoft(http://www.microsoft.com/visualj/)
these two no longer exist... anyway, we're wandering away from the question here, time to let this thread (and my email notifications) die? ;-)
> # Visual J++ from Microsoft(http://www.microsoft.com/visualj/)
these two no longer exist... anyway, we're wandering away from the question here, time to let this thread (and my email notifications) die? ;-)
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It seems,
People reading this thread still :-)
lakkiprasanna,
I have CD for Cafe. But i don't know how can I send this to you
Best Regards
Sudhakar
People reading this thread still :-)
lakkiprasanna,
I have CD for Cafe. But i don't know how can I send this to you
Best Regards
Sudhakar
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Even this is also discontinued
Even this is also discontinued
> Even this is also discontinued
Yeah, that's a really old (4 years?) list... ;-)
Yeah, that's a really old (4 years?) list... ;-)
Damnit! I didn't mean to post to this thread again ;-)
hehehehe...
*wanders off back to work*
;-)
hehehehe...
*wanders off back to work*
;-)
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and that links he/she get from
http://www.webdeveloper.com/java/java_ides.html
http://www.webdeveloper.com/java/java_ides.html
>*wanders off back to work*
Ohh, work... I wondered what I was meant to be doing in this office :-p
Ohh, work... I wondered what I was meant to be doing in this office :-p
lol :-D
Sigh. You guys really filled up my mailbox while I was happily having lunch ;-)
Anyway, lakkiprasanna, why don't you try to convince your client that the IDE is no longer released or supported, and so its a bad + old choice?
>> I have CD for Cafe. But i don't know how can I send this to you
Courier it ;-) LOL, try putting in some publicly downloadable place if you can.
Anyway, lakkiprasanna, why don't you try to convince your client that the IDE is no longer released or supported, and so its a bad + old choice?
>> I have CD for Cafe. But i don't know how can I send this to you
Courier it ;-) LOL, try putting in some publicly downloadable place if you can.
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>>try putting in some publicly downloadable place if you can.
I do not have much space for placing at some public domain.
And i don't know prasanna's address
I do not have much space for placing at some public domain.
And i don't know prasanna's address
>> Yeah, that's a really old (4 years?) list... ;-)
Very correct guess, Tim ;-) the site >> "http://www.webdeveloper.com/java/java_ides.html" says:
Copyright © 2000 internet.com Corporation. All rights reserved.
;-)
Very correct guess, Tim ;-) the site >> "http://www.webdeveloper.com/java/java_ides.html" says:
Copyright © 2000 internet.com Corporation. All rights reserved.
;-)
> Very correct guess, Tim ;-)
Woo! :-D
Woo! :-D
Has any of those IDEs the ability to detect which words are class names, method names... etc, and put a different color for each kind of word? this is what Visual Assist for M$ Visual Studio does, and really helps reading the code.
About what IDE to choose, some months ago I analized both JBuilder and Eclipse. I ended up using JBuilder, because of it's GUIs designing features. I tried the plugin for Eclipse for creating GUIs, whose name can't remember right now, but it was a lot worse. The thing I miss from Eclipse, which JBuilder has, is the "generate getter/setter" option. Well, JBuilder 9 didn't have the option, anybody knows if JBuilder 2005 will?.
About what IDE to choose, some months ago I analized both JBuilder and Eclipse. I ended up using JBuilder, because of it's GUIs designing features. I tried the plugin for Eclipse for creating GUIs, whose name can't remember right now, but it was a lot worse. The thing I miss from Eclipse, which JBuilder has, is the "generate getter/setter" option. Well, JBuilder 9 didn't have the option, anybody knows if JBuilder 2005 will?.
> Has any of those IDEs the ability to detect which words are class names, method names...
All of them do apart from the basic text editors such as notepad.
All of them do apart from the basic text editors such as notepad.
>> Well, JBuilder 9 didn't have the option, anybody knows if JBuilder 2005 will?.
I don't think so. Anyway, its best to wait for it and see ;-)
I don't think so. Anyway, its best to wait for it and see ;-)
JBuilder 2005 is great
This is a very subjective question...
Tim