Question

Connection String to AS400 through ASP through a VPN

Asked by: mfinocc

In need help establishing a connection to AS400 in an ASP page. Here's where I am so far...

<%@ LANGUAGE=VBSCRIPT %>

<%
      dim conn      
      Set conn = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
        conn.open "Provider=IBMDA400;Data Source=xxxxxx;User Id=xxxxxx;Password=xxxxxxx"
      
      response.write "Successful connection!"
%>

Obviously, the xxxxxx's are my Data Source, username, and password. I've tried using the name of the Data Source as named in AS400 as well as the IP address 192.168.4.30 associated with that connection name. Neither seemed to establish a connection to the server. What am I doing wrong?

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2009-10-13 at 11:49:58ID24808830
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Programming for iSeries / AS400

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Active Server Pages (ASP)

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Virtual Private Networking (VPN)

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Answers

 

by: Gary_The_IT_ProPosted on 2009-10-13 at 12:56:24ID: 25563780

Your connection string looks OK.

There are some pre-requisites:

1) Is the AS/400 reachable by IP?  For example, can you PING the IP address or system name from the system that is running your ASP application?   While PING isn't definitive (since ICMP can be blocked by a firewall or IP filtering while TCP is unblocked), a good TCP/IP connection to the system is required.  The Data Source parameter can be the IP address of the system, or any DNS or hostname that resolves properly to the AS/400 Ip address.  If the AS/400 and ASP application server are not on the same subnet, check and make sure that the ASP app server and AS/400 both have properly-configured gateway addresses.

You can use the Run SQL Scripts utility that is a part of iSeries Navigator (under your system name select Databases,  right-click on your RDB entry, and select Run SQL Scripts, then enter a valid SQL statement).  This will verify that you can connect to you the AS/400, and that the database server is up and running.

If you don't have a good connection, you'll probably need to enlist the assistance of your network administrator to help troubleshoot the problem.

2) Is the  client access database host server daemon started?  See the STRHOSTSVR green-screen command, http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/cl/strhostsvr.htm or use the IBM iSeries Navigator windows program (Network-Servers-iSeries Client Access-Database) to view or start the database server.

3) For  ASP.NET code examples, see section 7.3 of the excellent IBM Redbook "Integrating DB2 Universal Database for iSeries with Microsoft ADO .NET":

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246440.pdf

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by: tliottaPosted on 2009-10-13 at 13:00:08ID: 25563826

Minor note... sometimes TRACERT xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx might be a little more informative than PING, even if ICMP is blocked. It can help in isolating where connections might be going wrong.

Tom

 

by: mfinoccPosted on 2009-10-13 at 13:14:55ID: 25564023

I can ping the AS400 server. However, the AS400 server and the ASP server are two different IP addresses. The AS400 sever is accessed through my company's VPN and the ASP server is accessed through the internet. Now what?

 

by: Gary_The_IT_ProPosted on 2009-10-13 at 13:42:19ID: 25564331

Just to make sure we understand each other:  Can you can ping the AS/400 from the ASP server?  It doesn't matter if you can ping each of them from your workstation - what matters is that they can see each other.

Second, is the database host server started, as outlined above?

Third, if you can ping from the ASP server to the AS/400, and the database host server is started, then what happens when you try to establish a database connection from the ASP server to the AS/400 using the Run SQL Scripts utility as outline above?

It is possible that ICMP (ping/traceroute protocol) is open between the two machines, but the TCP port required (8471 by default, 9471 if SSL) by the Client Access Database Server is not.  IF it is not, then you'll  need help from your network administrator to make sure that the correct ports are open between the ASP server and your AS/400.

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by: Gary_The_IT_ProPosted on 2009-10-13 at 13:44:22ID: 25564362

When you say that the AS/400 and ASP server are two different addresses, I assume you mean that they are on two different networks.  If they are different systems, of course they are different addresses.

- Gary

 

by: mfinoccPosted on 2009-10-13 at 13:52:57ID: 25564472

No, I wouldn't be able to ping the AS400 from the ASP server. The ASP server is with a webhosting company outside my network. Now I see why I can't get the connection string to do anything, its on a different network.

The AS400 database is started and working. Keep in mind though, its within my company's VPN.

How do I get these two servers talking to each other?

 

by: Gary_The_IT_ProPosted on 2009-10-13 at 15:47:13ID: 25565592

Well, it depends on you network configuration, and your application requirements.

Why don't you tell us more about what you need to do, from a business perspective.

You need to be aware that improper configuration or application design can result in you exposing your AS/400 to the world over the internet, and possibly disclosing valid user IDs and passwords to any intermediate network at the same time.  This is not good.  If you have any doubts about how to go about creating a secure connection and a secure application, get some expert help!

This kind of connection problematic form a security perspective.  

The reason is that you have an insecure, publicly exposed ASP server that can be accessed by anyone, and you want to allow it to make inbound connections to your secure AS/400 on your secure network.  Because of the nature of these applications, they also often contain valid user IDs and passwords embedded in connections string, config files, or other locations where they may be discovered if the ASP system is compromised.  The ASP system then can be used as a launch pad from which to either compromise the secure network or secure server (AS/400 in this case), or the interfaces between the systems can be compromised and end user input and responses monitored, false information can be injected, and illegal queries/updates/deleted attempted.  Depending on the application, and the nature of the data stored on the secure system, this could be very bad.

Creating  secure applictions in this environment requires some very careful planning and design.

  • First of all, have the application server tightly locked down, with no services other than HTTP/HTTPS exposed, properly firewalled and kept current with security patches. 
  • Second, encrypt all conversations between the two networks or systems. 
  • Third,  strictly limit the  number and type of services opened up between the two systems.
     
  • Fourth, have the  secure system initiate connections to the insecure system, not the other way around.  Applications built around messaging and queueing standards (MQ) or web services are great for this purpose.  
     
  • Fifth, once the connection is established, strictly limit the type of requests that the insecure system can make of the secure system.  For example, allow application-specific messages to be passed, but do not allow raw SQL statements to be executed from the remote system.  Set up a mechanism to detect and log any unusual or invalid requests. 
  • Where possible, authenticate application users on the insecure system, and only permit authorized users to access your applications.
     
There are numerous connectivity options:

1) Create a VPN between your AS/400 and the ASP.  It is desirable to only pass the specific traffic that is required by your application.

2) Connect via SSL from the ASP server to the AS/400.  This will most likely require a change in your firewall configuration to allow AS/400 SSL database traffic (TCP port 9471 by default) to pass your firewall from the ASP server to the AS/400.  You will also need to configure SSL for the Database server application.

3) Create a custom messaging-based application that allows the secure system (AS/400) to initiate contact with the insecure system, and limit the types of requests that the insecure system is allowed to make back over this connection.

And remember, if in doubt, bring in someone experienced in designing and building these types of secure applications.

- Gary Patterson

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by: tliottaPosted on 2009-10-14 at 12:56:51ID: 25574458

One more minor note...

> You need to be aware that improper configuration or application design can result in you exposing your AS/400 to the world over the internet...

But, also be aware that your AS/400 is the most secureable box in the whole setup. Companies often expose Windows boxes while simultaneously fearing to expose their AS/400. Fundamental guidelines can allow your AS/400 to be exposed without much concern. Obviously, if it's not secure on the internal network, it won't be better on the internet.

A Windows server with a VPN connection is effectively an inside server. The VPN provides the opening.

Tom

 

by: mfinoccPosted on 2009-10-20 at 05:45:20ID: 31640712

Thanks!

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