Question

exec a background process

Asked by: Tintin

One of my developers came up with some unusual code that had me wondering what was going on.

See the below scripts.  In particular, it's the line

exec /tmp/b &

that has me wondering the detailed process flow.  In essence the exec makes no difference, but the question is why?  Is it because a new process is forked and *then* that process is overlayed by exec?

#!/bin/sh
date
echo "A $$"
ps -fp $$
exec /tmp/b &
PID=$!
echo "PID $!"
wait $PID
echo "A END $$"
date

$ cat b
#!/bin/sh
echo "B $$"
ps -fp $$
sleep 5
echo "B END"

$ /tmp/a
Tue Sep 26 14:28:53 NZST 2006
A 9849
     UID   PID  PPID   C    STIME TTY         TIME CMD
  tintin  9849  7976   0 14:28:53 pts/5       0:00 /bin/sh /tmp/a
PID 9852
B 9852
     UID   PID  PPID   C    STIME TTY         TIME CMD
  tintin  9852  9849   0 14:28:53 pts/5       0:00 /bin/sh /tmp/b
B END
A END 9849
Tue Sep 26 14:28:58 NZST 2006

If you remove the exec and run again, you'll see that it has exactly the same behaviour.

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2006-09-25 at 19:34:43ID22002447
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background

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exec

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Server Side Includes (SSI)

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Answers

 

by: ozoPosted on 2006-09-25 at 19:55:43ID: 17598335

Yes.
Were you trying to do something like
(/tmp/b &) &

 

by: TintinPosted on 2006-09-25 at 20:10:44ID: 17598380

I wasn't trying to do anything apart from wondering why the developer had used

exec something &

instead of

something &

and why it effectively makes no difference.

 

by: HamdyHassanPosted on 2006-09-27 at 09:51:27ID: 17611864

The exec command specified by the arguments is executed in place of this shell without creating a new process.

In code above, It didn't run at the same shell because b script has "#!/bin/sh" which make exec useless

remove "#!/bin/sh"  from the top of b script and you will see the difference

$ a_pid.sh  
Wed Sep 27 12:43:45 EDT 2006
A 26196
     UID   PID  PPID  C    STIME TTY      TIME CMD
hhassan1 26196 14562  0 12:43:45 pts/116  0:00 /bin/sh a_pid.sh
PID 26199
B 26199
     UID   PID  PPID  C    STIME TTY      TIME CMD
hhassan1 26199 26196  0 12:43:46 pts/116  0:00 /bin/sh a_pid.sh
B END
A END 26196
Wed Sep 27 12:43:51 EDT 2006


as you see both PS CMD output have "/bin/sh a_pid.sh"

 

by: TintinPosted on 2006-09-28 at 03:05:11ID: 17617478

Removing #!/bin/sh from the exec script makes no difference on Solaris 10.

What Unix version are you running HamdyHassan?

Anyway, I think your analysis is incorrect.  It's not the hash bang line that makes a difference to exec (at least on Solaris 10 with bourne shell), it's the execing a process in the background.

 

by: HamdyHassanPosted on 2006-09-28 at 07:08:25ID: 17619368

both Solaris 7 and Solaris 8 give the same difference

Here is output at Solaris 8

$ a_pid.sh
Thu Sep 28 10:01:46 EDT 2006
A 21010
     UID   PID  PPID  C    STIME TTY      TIME CMD
hhassan1 21010 20977  0 10:01:46 pts/8    0:00 /bin/sh a_pid.sh
PID 21013
B 21013
     UID   PID  PPID  C    STIME TTY      TIME CMD
hhassan1 21013 21010  0 10:01:46 pts/8    0:00 /bin/sh a_pid.sh
B END
A END 21010
Thu Sep 28 10:01:51 EDT 2006
$ uname -r
5.8

>>>>>>>>>>>> makes no difference on Solaris 10.
Please check Solaris 10 documents , may be they mentioned bug/enhancement about it

 

by: TintinPosted on 2006-09-28 at 14:23:27ID: 17623085

My mistake.  Behaviour is the same on Solaris 10.

Looks like my initial idea is correct.  

exec cmd &

Appears to do fork, then the forked process is exec'ed.  If the exec'ed process is invoking another interpreter, then that interpreter will be used, otherwise exec will overlay the forked process with the current shell process (still end up with 2 processes though).

I'll give the points to HamdyHassan, as he pointed out the difference in running the second script with and without the #!/bin/sh

 

by: HamdyHassanPosted on 2006-09-29 at 06:28:11ID: 17627063

Thanks TinTin, I will be proud of these points because it comes from one of the best here

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