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How to trace where First-chance exception occurs.

Asked by: SteH

I got an app where I get intermittantly
First-chance exception in bonder2.exe (GDI32.DLL): 0xC0000005: Access Violation.
Unfortunatly this is repeated so fast that the Debug tabwindow only contains this message and not the others before. Is there an easy way to find the place where this occurs to debug that part more carefully?

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by: jtbaloghPosted on 2004-01-29 at 09:57:55ID: 10227617

>> only contains this message and not the others before ...

Not sure what you mean by this because the output window has the capability to hold thousands of previous messages.

>> ... find the place where this occurs ...

Its too bad this type of debugging can not benefit from adding try/catch() to your program because the error occurs in GDI32.DLL instead. You can however trace the program flow before and after it shows the error. It will lead you closer to finding the command you used that accessed the GDI DLL.

Like any type of debugging, start adding/manipulating code in each procedure you think was running at the time to give you indicators or markers of where its been or what it was recently doing. For example, one straightforward technique is to display information in the debug window periodically yourself to track code, with,

    #include <crtdbg.h> // for assert, verify, rpt, etc.

    And in your main startup procedure, add,

    _CrtSetReportMode(_CRT_WARN, _CRTDBG_MODE_DEBUG);
    _CrtSetReportFile(_CRT_WARN, _CRTDBG_FILE_STDOUT);
    _CrtSetReportMode(_CRT_ERROR, _CRTDBG_MODE_DEBUG);
    _CrtSetReportFile(_CRT_ERROR, _CRTDBG_FILE_STDOUT);
    _CrtSetReportMode(_CRT_ASSERT, _CRTDBG_MODE_DEBUG);
    _CrtSetReportFile(_CRT_ASSERT, _CRTDBG_FILE_STDOUT);

    And in your procedures, add where you want to display data to the output window with,

    void AnyProcedure()
    {
        // <-- some of your original code for the procedure here
       _RPT4(_CRT_WARN,"%s, %s, %s, %s\n","1","","",""); // debug.print, #my name
        // <-- some of your original code for the procedure here
       _RPT4(_CRT_WARN,"%s, %s, %s, %s\n","2","","",""); // debug.print, #my name
        // <-- some of your original code for the procedure here
       _RPT4(_CRT_WARN,"%s, %s, %s, %s\n","3","","",""); // debug.print, #my name
        // <-- some of your original code for the procedure here

        // #my name only used to easy to globally search for the comment in the
        // entire project and delete the related code. No use keeping it forever, I guess.
        // Also using _RPT1, _RPT2, _RPT3, is an alternative.
    }

Hope that helps lead you in a positive direction.
Joseph

 

by: jkrPosted on 2004-01-29 at 10:08:59ID: 10227713

>>First-chance exception in bonder2.exe (GDI32.DLL): 0xC0000005: Access Violation.

Why would you want to do that?

'First-chance exception in xxx...' just means that a function from within the 'xxx' caused an access-violation exception that was handled successfully inside the SEH frame that was active when the exception occurred. You can think of it being the same as if you use code like this:

long l;

__try // set up current SEH frame
{
CopyMemory ( &l, 0, sizeof ( long)); // read from 0x00000000
}
__except( EXCEPTION_EXECUTE_HANDLER) // handler for current frame
{
puts ( "We knew that this would go wrong...");
}

So let's hope that the MS progrmmer knew what they were doing ;-)

(Additional info: MS KB Article Q105675)

The article can be found at http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q105/6/75.asp

A first chance exception is called so as it is passed to a debugger before the application 'sees' it. This is done by sending a 'EXCEPTION_DEBUG_EVENT' to the debugger, which can now decide whether it is passed to the apllication to handle it or 'ignore' it (e.g. like an 'EXCEPTION_BREAKPOINT' aka 'int 3'). If the exception isn't handled, it becomes a '2nd chance' exception, the debugger 'sees' it the 2nd time and will usually terminate the program (without using a debugger, these exceptions end up at 'UnhandledExceptionFilter()' which will also signal the exception to the user with one of these 'nice' message boxes and terminate the program, also...)

In short: This message is only generated by a debugger & you can safely ignore it...

 

by: jtbaloghPosted on 2004-01-29 at 10:45:24ID: 10228068

True, but I never just ignored it. Knowing which commands were executed when the error occurred raises a red flag for me to investigate. Sometimes I found alternative commands, procedures, DLLs, etc. I could use, or I found documention about a known bug with that command that I have to live with. That made me feel more confident about what to do next.

I assume "the MS programmer did not know what they were doing". Ignored only if the bug has no solution and there are no alternative commands to use.

Of course, it all depends on how much time you have though to investigate it. Might not be fun anyway. This is the opportunity cost you have to decide.

 

by: itsmeandnobodyelsePosted on 2004-01-29 at 10:53:48ID: 10228144

Do you know that?

In Visual Studio you can specify in Menu 'Debug - Exceptions' that the debugger should 'Stop Always' when a selected exception occurs (in your case 0x0000005).

That should give you a chance to find out where the exception comes from.

Hope, i unterstood your question correctly.

Regards, Alex

 

by: jkrPosted on 2004-01-29 at 10:54:43ID: 10228155

>>I assume "the MS programmer did not know what they were doing".

Indeed :o)

BTW, a function like e.g. 'IsBadReadPtr()' *will* produce a FCE when running under a debugger, because that is the only way to find out whether the requested condition is true.

 

by: jkrPosted on 2004-01-29 at 10:56:15ID: 10228171

>>That should give you a chance to find out where the exception comes from.

Yes. Right in the assembly code of gdi32.dll.

 

by: itsmeandnobodyelsePosted on 2004-01-29 at 11:01:04ID: 10228235

> Yes. Right in the assembly code of gdi32.dll.

That's trivial, but i like call stacks that include some functions from me and not only from MS.

Regards, Alex

 

by: jtbaloghPosted on 2004-01-29 at 11:07:15ID: 10228302

>>That should give you a chance to find out where the exception comes from.

Stopping in assembly code is very annoying. However, I did get lucky a couple of times by stepping or stepping out through the annoying assembly code of a DLL like that and eventually ended up back to legible source code. I found an area I could investigate in my program. Was it worth it? Maybe.

 

by: SteHPosted on 2004-01-30 at 00:43:23ID: 10233524

The problem with this exception for me is that it seems to get into a loop where the exception gets re-thrown and it gets difficult to stop the application at all. At least the history length which is set by default is too short to get the last OutputDebugString or TRACE command I had in my code. So my questions to comments:

@itsmeandnobodyelse
can't find the menu "Debug - exceptions" fast. Perhaps you can give some more hints. I am using VC++ 6.0 SP5. But I will try to find it on my own as well.

@jkr
As I said above:  my app either remains in this exception handling or comes into an infinite loop thowing this exception all over again.  I would like to ignore it. But since the app can't be used this not really an option for me. At the moment I can't even decide whether it is part of my code or part of one of two imaging libraries which in turn call GDI functions.

@jtpalogh
I have some OutputDebugString () calls in my app which should show me what command was last executed. This should limit my search a lot. At least for the moment the length of the buffer for TRACE or PutputDebugString messages is too short. How do I increase that length?

 

by: SteHPosted on 2004-01-30 at 01:14:16ID: 10233712

I just had a look and find 8191 line of
First-chance exception
and then the line
The program xxx has exicited with code 0 (0x0)   << here i stopped it from the task manager.

 

by: SteHPosted on 2004-01-30 at 01:29:37ID: 10233807

OK i found the debug menu. Will give more info when error occured again

 

by: SteHPosted on 2004-01-30 at 04:46:18ID: 10234720

Thanks itsmeandnobodyelse,

this was what I was looking for. At least I narrowed the area where I have to search for the error.

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