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RUP vs Scrum

Asked by: srikanthrad

What is the difference between RUP and Scrum? Since, they both are iterative, I want to know the key differences between them and Scenarios when they use both of them. Please suggest.

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by: jaime_olivaresPosted on 2009-08-18 at 19:29:22ID: 25129237

RUP is a collection of methodologies, more process oriented, while SCRUM is a single methodology more developer oriented.
Since they are not antagonist, both can work together, as explained here:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/library/feb05/krebs/

 

by: srikanthradPosted on 2009-08-18 at 23:11:51ID: 25129970

I agree that they are not antagonistic approaches. But, what i understood over research in google is that
RUP is for the people who knows exactly what they are doing in advance, however requirements can change in each phase when these iterations are developed to cope with the changes but the changes are not allowed to progress after each phase is complete.

where as Scrum is required when requirements constantly change and we are obligated to iterate and incorporate the changes in the software development as the development progresses.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

by: jaime_olivaresPosted on 2009-08-18 at 23:29:08ID: 25130034

in case of SCRUM, you analyze requirements and decide to attend some of them in a short time (sprint, tipically 1 month). You don't need to have all your requirementa already defined, just enough to be done on next sprint. Once you decide what to do, you don't change it until you finish your sprint.

 

by: srikanthradPosted on 2009-08-18 at 23:37:35ID: 25130063

So, both of them have requirement frozen for certain period of time
In the case of Agile, the requirements are frozen after the Inception and Elaboration phase.
In the case of Scrum, the requirements are frozen for each Sprint.

Am I right in stating the above?

If I am right, in case of Agile if requirements change in the middle of Construction phase. Should we wait until the next RUP phases begin starting from Inception? Unlike the SCRUM where the requirements can be changed after current sprint which is kind of short time.

 

by: defi0Posted on 2009-08-19 at 00:58:31ID: 25130399

I'd like to offer my own view on these two methodologies:
- Scrum is a fully agile methodology that was initially designed for projects implemented by a single team of around 7 people. Since then, people have designed ways to make Scrum work for multi-team, even distributed, projects, with mixed results. Also, Scrum is really a set of rules to make a team more productive. It is not a full methodology; for instance, it does not suggest any development practice (unlike XP for example). For that matter, Scrum can be applied to all sorts of projects, not just software. Finally, Scrum emphasizes "time boxing" over "content boxing", i.e. everything, from meetings to Sprints to Releases, is limited by a fixed duration, not by the outcome (contents).
- on the other hand, RUP is a full methodology for large software projects. It provides guidance throughout the project to all "actors" (users, developers, designers, testers, product managers, project manager, etc.) as well as templates for artifacts, processes, recommendations for tools, etc. It emphasizes predictability by providing a complete project plan by the end of the Elaboration phase, and therefore tries to aim for feature completeness in a predictable timeframe.

Personally, I would recommend RUP for large, high-value software projects (such as complex software products), and Scrum for smaller projects (of any kind), especially projects that require incremental delivery.

Note that the fundamental idea behind Scrum is empowering the team, making it fully autonomous and responsible. This can be disruptive in some organizations.
On the other hand, RUP is a "structured" process that gives the power to... the process. This is often desirable in large organizations but can reduce "nimbleness" and creativity.

As for your question on requirement management, Scrum indeed freezes requirements only for the duration of each Sprint (usually 15 to 30 days), but that's because Scrum by definition does not guarantee the contents (features) of the Release in advance. Basically, a Release contains... what could be delivered in the Release timeframe.
RUP also allows requirements to be taken into account during the Construction phase, but the more you allow that, the more unpredictable your project becomes, which can be a problem for projects that choose RUP over Scrum for its predictability.

 

by: ArchyonPosted on 2009-08-19 at 01:49:59ID: 25130633

I like to add to the excellent explanation of Defi0 that RUP is capable of delivering software in a demand-supply organization (whereas the supplier has a contract to deliver software for the demanding business), because in RUP it is possible to organize progress and changes in a rigid way so both parties in the organization keep on track during the process. Using SCRUM in a demand-supply situation will be a huge challenge, since every sprint can (and will) stir up previous agreements. My experiences tell me that business decision making bodies are commonly not that flexible.

Another point of consideration is that SCRUM is a way of working that can easily be adopted, also for a single project. RUP to the contrary will take more time to adopt as one needs to start with what NOT to use of the 32 roles, 200+ templates and accompanying workflows in your organization, then have everybody (i.e. everybody, including management, customers etc) put their mindsets in the same RUP direction. Only when this is put right, you may (or should) start with your first Inception phase. Any attempt to introduce RUP fpr an standalone project and start using it before organizing it, fails.

 

by: srikanthradPosted on 2009-08-19 at 07:34:33ID: 31617400

Thanks for solution.

 

by: defi0Posted on 2009-08-19 at 09:31:10ID: 25134546

Excellent comment from Archyon.

Just an additional note: there are variants (deviants?) from RUP that are more agile and less complex, such as AgileUP or OpenUP (http://epf.eclipse.org/wikis/openup/). The latter is actually based, in part, on a subset of RUP donated by IBM/Rational.

 

by: ArchyonPosted on 2009-08-19 at 10:25:19ID: 25135125

To add to this list of "successors" of RUP. Ivar Jacobson, one of the founders of RUP, is now active with EssUP or Essential UP. EssUP is not based on RUP, but has the best practices of classic RUP, agile processes and process maturity. More info on EssUP can be found on http://www.ivarjacobson.com/products/essup.cfm

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