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i want my left speaker to be my right and my right to be my left (interchangably)

this is my problem. i have 2 speakers (big ones-cant be moved) on 2 sides of my pc. 180 degrees from me(behind me) theres a tv which i sometimes use with my pc with tv out(see movies games). now if turn to my tv than the speakers behind me are reversed, the right one will be on my left and the left on my right(that screws sound effects). i have my sound card connected to an old amplifaier and the speakers are conected to it. its alot of hassel to get down on my knees every time i need to swhich betwin left and right(i need to physicaly change the lines).
i have win 98 se and an onboard intel 2.4 soundcard.
how can i change it? if no software does it even registry changes would be fine . tecnicaly it doesnt sound hard to just make the pc send sound info right to left and left to right i just cant find what to change.
( i tried all search engins and other ways of search before asking here)
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Switch places on the signal leads in the plug that goes into sound card output connector. This should switch channels for the signal going to your amp. It may require soldering, if the plug is a small (3,5 mm) one.

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There is no way of doing this via the software.
I am assuming you need it connected correctly for playing some sounds and you want it reversed to play with the TV output.
What about a small A B switch box?
Or what about adding some extensions to allow you to swap the connector someplace easier to get to?
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rid, i didnt understand one word you said.
Your amp has to have some connection to your soundcard, right? Usually from the line out (if it exists) or from the speaker/headphone connector (a small hole into which you push the connector plug). Inside this connector the cable leads are soldered to terminal lugs. My suggestion was to reverse the placing of the two signal leads, thus reversing channels. I realize this may not be an everyday activity if you haven't used a soldering iron before, but it should work. I believe you need to solve this by adjusting your hardware rather than through software, but, of course, a software solution would be a bit easier and more flexible.

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What kind of Sound Card do you have?  Sometimes they come with software that may let you do this.

Mirfster.
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Generally I find that, unless I mixed the audio track, I really have no way of knowing which sounds SHOULD be on the left and which ones SHOULD be on the right.

You say it screws up sound effects.  Are you sure that you don't have one speaker cone moving back as the other one is moving forwards.  This causes phase cancellation of certain frequencies especially in speakers with ports which use the backward motion of the speakers to support the bass.

Stick your hands in front of both speakers and see if the're going in and out at opposite times.

If so, get a soldering iron and swap them.
alternatively, stick a length of hosepipe in each ear with a plastic funnel on the end of each.  When you turn around, just flip them over the opposite shoulders and, hey presto!!!

Are your headphones the wrong way around also?
Hey BillDL,  I tried the length of hosepipe and the plastic funnel thing and it's great.  I've augmented the idea as well to accommodate a hose from a keg in my beer cellar which goes into my mouth and of course a funnel and hose to avoid unnecsessary trips to the head.

If you connected your speakers yourself, NAME10, there is every chance that they are, as BillDL, suggested, out of phase and will sound as he suggested.  

And what he really meant was try swapping the + and - over on one of the speakers, not both -- because then they would both still be out of phase.

But you just wanna switch those suckers because deep down when you spin 'round you know that the're back to front.

My suggestion is that you invert your TV and stand on your head -- I've tried it it works.  


fredshovel, sounds like you're glued to that mulimedia, surround-sound, apparatus of yours.  I just have a leak in the CD Rom tray :-)

I'm just thinking. If the speakers are too far apart to physically put one hand over each, just stick a lit candle in front of one and hold a hand over the other speaker.

Alternatively, saw your desk in half and move the speakers closer together, you won't be aware of the stereo spraed and pan, and it won't be a source of annoyance any more.
Actually, I reckon an analogue A/B switchbox, as suggested by rayt333 could be your cheapest and easiest answer. Instead of having to twist the selector knob manually with your hand, you could automate this a bit and mount it under your swivel chair as long as you always turn in the same direction when you swap gaming with TV.
Bill> FYI
you have several lounge points a-waitin' your return.
Thanks StoneG, I didn't get email notification, strange.
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first of all when i said the effects get scewd up i only meant that a guy in a movie drives from left to right and the speakers give an effect of right to left, no static or anything like that.

second, i solved the problem on my own.

thanks for all the replys.
Just out of curiosity, name10, what was causing it?  It's always helpful to add any new solutions to notes for future reference.
He doesn't rent movies with cars in them anymore.
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i dont know the thechnical names but: from my sound card there is one cord which becomes 2. when i plug it to the amplifier i plug one to left hole and one to right (its writen left speaker and right). i just swhiched them.

the fact that i didnt find out erlier it was so easy was that i needed to get on all 4 in order to check it and......  i didnt realy feel like doing it until i had too.
I love this guy.
Figured this out all by yourself huh?
How many commnets mentioned it above before you figured it out all by yourself.

name10,

    Glad to hear things worked out well for you.  As for the rest of the "comments" just ignore them, obviously some of us have forgotten that somewhere along the lines, we discover that it's easiest to overlook the simplest things when troubleshooting.

    For example: Not ridiculing a person for asking a question, is one of the simple things that was overlooked here.

Mirfster.
Yes I agree with Mirfster.  You all should be ashamed of yourselves.  

Meanwhile whilst this forum is still open could anyone perhaps help me with a similar left right problem?

I have to do some live electrical wiring later on today and I've heard that you get a good earth if you stand in a bucket of water whilst working with 240V AC -- but both of my feet won't fit into one bucket, so I figure I'll use two buckets -- my problem is that I have only one metal bucket and one plastic bucket.  I know that the metal bucket is the better conductor, but am confused as to which foot to put in which bucket.

Only very serious answers will be considered.


Move to America where they have larger buckets and use 110 volts.  Not only will it be safer, but you won't get bunions from constantly having your toes scrunched into a tiny bucket.

Hey, name10, don't worry. Easy to overlook small details sometimes. Can't tell you how many times I've hunted for my car keys for 20 minutes and found out I was holding them in my hand all that time. Problem is I don't have a car :-)

Had you understood rid's suggestion, you would realise that this is what he suggested, but suggested it for a single wire. rayt333 suggested using a switchbox taht would do the same thing.  But the problem was, none of us knew you had a fancy "cord which becomes 2" at the other end.  You should have said.
fredshovel, take all of the wiring looms and conduits into the bathroom and stand in a bath full of warm water.  Temperature isn't crucial, but you'll be less blue when they find you.
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i couldnt care less for any post that doesnt help me.
Hi everybody.  My name is Chuck Frankenheim, I’m a design technician at Disneyland, Anaheim, CA. currently on a business trip in Australia exploring the technical possibilities of integrating some of our technology with Sydney’s Luna Park amusement park.  I am sharing accommodation here with Mr Fred Shovel.  Fred is actually the night attendant at Luna Park but tells everyone he is a design  technician.  Fred’s letting me use his email – and that’s how I spotted all this email from Experts Exchange.  Fred actually drove the ghost train here for 10 years -- right up until we told them that ghost trains don’t need drivers – so now he’s the night attendant.
They still can’t keep him off the ghost train though.   Fred’s got a lot of harebrained schemes and he almost convinced the management here to change Luna Park’s name to Shoveland.  The fact is he has been constantly emailing me over the past few months with all these technical problems which I thought were problems at Luna Park – but have now I’ve discovered that he is using the information to try to solve problems at Experts Exchange.  So I might as well have a go at this one myself.

Switching left and right channels would be a pretty easy day’s work at Disneyland.  To simplify things we would just use two soundcards – just something cheap and nasty would do for the playback – like a Soundblaster, where you would ‘swap around’  the output leads.  They can both be patched to the same amplifier input.  So you just change your preferred playback device in ‘multimedia’ when you want to play anything with left right reversed.  

At Disneyland we use Peavey’s Media Matrix.  It’s simply a PC accessing DSP which goes to BOBs (break out boxes) and then on to amplifiers for speakers.  All the switching is done inside the software.  Easy.  The US senate is also run on this system.  But this option may be a little costly. http://mediamatrix.peavey.com/introduction.cfm

We also use a lot of MIDI control to switch stuff.  You just write a sequence with a control change and play it when you want to switch stuff. Most soundcards have midi out.  MIDI is so simple and can actually switch outboard analogue equipment like ....switches.

A friend of mine back home, Mike Stand is one of these stereo ‘buffs’ and he just wires the A/B speaker switch from his amp to the same speakers from both A and B – but has the left and right on B swapped.

Another friend of mine, Verandah Floor, mixes the output of her soundcard into the line level inputs on a mixing console with sub-groups and assigns the signals  to one of the sub-groups where the left and right outputs are reversed.

Another eccentric friend of mine, (name withheld) really goes the long way around a similar problem.  He firstly pads down the line level signal of the soundcard’s output with whopping great 40db pads and sticks the signal into the microphone inputs of his mixing console.  He has a special lead with XLR plugs only utilising pins 2 (in phase) and 3 (out of phase) and uses the 180 degree phase reverse switches on the channel inputs.
 
I’ve got to go now.  Fred’s on the ghost train again.
Take the comments in order of helpfulness, name10:

1. Swap the signal leads around - maybe wires will need resoldered at the jack plug (you weren't sure what was meant)
2. Use an AB Switchbox (3rd hit on google.co.uk "ab switchbox" = http://www.fellowescatalog.com/discon.cfm?curGroup=N02A  Nice photo of one
3. Point No. 1 expanded (maybe still too complicated)
4. What kind of sound card do you have? - still not answered
5. Test and see if one speaker cone's going in while the other's going out
6. Are the headphones doing the same as the speakers? - not answered
7. + and - "polarity" clarified
8. If you can't reach both speakers to "feel" the movement with both hands, use something like a candle and you'll see the flame move
9. Emphasises point that AB switchbox will work
10. You explain how sound is affecting you - fixed it yourself
11. How?
12. Swapped left and right channels
13. Several ridiculous comments made because you "fixed it yourself" by doing what had been suggested
14. You "couldnt care less for any post that doesnt help me"

Seems there WERE a few things in there that could have helped you, if you had read between the "funnies".

Obviously you don't have a sense of humour, sorry about that.
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i am glad you all so interested in replying even after i fixed it myself. but i dont need any help anymore.

thank you all.
What an AH huh?
you ask one of the stupidest questions I have seen here and after several suggestions you come back and say you fixed it yourself and the fix?? exactly what had been suggested. You must be a "real expert" you fixed it yourself!!!

Can you say the following several times real fast?
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Such childish posts i didnt expect in this forum.
but im sure the silent majority is also the polite one.

there have been some incidents in this universe no matter how far fetch they seem, that people had managed to fix something before they checked the helping posts.

its beyond me why one would think others are lying about it, its just bizarre
and again thanks to those who posted helpful answers
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some people sound get credit for sheer pity.
Thank you for pitying me name10.
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its ok you realy deserve it
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the pitty that is
Just let it go, name10.
Nobody cares.
Especially those of us who can't unsubscribe to the notifs we get from your sniping.

Please just let this poor thread die with what remains of its dignity.

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it was dead till you posted this last usless post.

so do not post anymore!
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Down at the bottom there should be an option to unsubscribe.
not after an answer has been accepted.