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Cisco VPN Client -> PIX over TCP

Asked by: dsimm

I have the Cisco VPN Client V3.5 for Win 2k and a Pix 515UR Firewall (V6.2).

Currently all users use IPSec over UDP.

I now have the situation that some users cannot use the UDP Connections anymore as Port 500 (ISAKMP) has been blocked. I would like to be able to force them onto a Specific TCP port (say Port 10000) for sake of argument.

I need to know what lines I need to add to my Pix config to get IPSec over TCP to work. I have scoured the web and Cisco.com with no luck. I can find a way of doing it using the VPN3000 concentrator but not the Pix 515.

Anyone got any links / Ideas?

Cheers

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by: geoffrynPosted on 2003-03-12 at 17:09:35ID: 8124246

ISAKMP is a standard port.  I do not think that the PIX supports any means of changing the listening port.  Why would you feel the need to block 500 UDP in the first place?

 

by: dsimmPosted on 2003-03-13 at 01:21:10ID: 8126349

I probably need to add to this question.

I am not blocking Port UDP 500, A certain British ISP is. Unfortunately a few of our support engineers chose them as their ISP and cannot now talk back to base. I need to get thier VPN  Clients working whilst they change their provider. I am gambling on the fact that the ISP is blocking on Port Numbers.

I know the Cisco VPN Client on Win 2k has an option to use IPSec over a specific TCP port. I want to use this feature. I just dont know how to configure the TCP port on the PIX. I have the rest of the Pix set up correctly I suspect 2 things either

a. The IPSec over TCP is not supported on Pix ony VPN3000 concentrators

b. I need an access-list, ipsec or similar command to define which port the clients connect to.

 

by: geoffrynPosted on 2003-03-13 at 08:12:54ID: 8128886

I don't think this can be done.  Have you done a "debug crypto ipsec" and "debug crypto isakmp"  

 

by: dsimmPosted on 2003-03-13 at 08:33:31ID: 8129105

I suspect it cannot be done too. I think that client is quite tightly integrated to the VPN3000 Concentrator Box and this features is specific to that. I know my VPN set up works fine over UDP i.e. when IPSec over UDP is enabled. If I change the client to do IPSec over TCP and use the default Port (10000) the Pix never responds.

I am assuming there is a command in the PIX that allows me to say something like crypto ipsec tcp port <port number>. This of course is a BIG assumption. I have studied http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/pix_62/index.htm for a command that may be of use but I cannot see anything. Hence this post.

Yes I have used said commands. Nothing out of the ordinary. I think the Initial TCP SYN when the Client tries to set up the connection is jsut being dropped by the Pix Outside interface. As I say ,i need a command to tell the Pix to let the IPSec on port 10000 through.



 

by: lrmoorePosted on 2003-03-14 at 05:30:04ID: 8135968

IPSEC uses a standard port that you cannot change on the PIX.
If UDP works, then what's the problem with just having the client use the udp option?

 

by: cephal0podPosted on 2003-04-11 at 10:03:21ID: 8314413

I didn't think the PIX supported TCP encapsulation, only UDP. If you wanted TCP you'd have to get a concentrator.

 

by: hetreedPosted on 2004-03-08 at 06:06:52ID: 10540513

I was reading this thread because I am trying to get a PIX to encapsulate IPSec to get through an ISP that is blocking it. There seems ot be plenty about how the VPN concentrators do it, but nothing on PIXs. I don't mind whether it is done with UDP or TCP, but as yet I have been unable to find any reference to the PIX being able to do this. Any ideas?

 

by: knowlegePosted on 2004-03-17 at 18:31:23ID: 10620488

Have you tried to add the command isakmp nat-traversal.  I was never able to get IPSEC over TCP working either.  I had problems with some users who were going through firewalls that were doing PAT and this command fixed it.  Good luck.

 

by: walterthebatPosted on 2004-03-24 at 03:10:09ID: 10666351

PIX does not currently support IPSEC over TCP.
It is sheduled for release in version 7 , 4th qtr 2004.

 

by: geoffrynPosted on 2004-11-10 at 10:39:20ID: 12547287

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