Question

power users need printer drivers

Asked by: teknowil

I am running win2k computers  I need powerusers or domain user to install local  printers. I have set options in security template in user rights management to enable Power users to load/unload drivers and set  security rights to allow users to install print drivers. I have made sure power users have rights to the c drive. They still do not have access, local printers option is available but it says I need to be administrator or it will get to the end and say "access denied" when I click finish. My starfish seem to find a new printer everyday and I spend 50% of my time LOADING FREAKING PRINTER DRIVERS! any assistance would be appreciated

This Question has been solved and asker verified All Experts Exchange premium technology solutions are available to subscription members.

Subscribe now for full access to Experts Exchange and get

Instant Access to this Solution

  • Plus...
  • 30 Day FREE access, no risk, no obligation
  • Collaborate with the world's top tech experts
  • Unlimited access to our exclusive solution database
  • Never be left without tech help again

Subscribe Now

Asked On
2004-02-08 at 07:42:31ID20877348
Tags

power

,

printer

,

user

Topic

Miscellaneous Security

Participating Experts
7
Points
500
Comments
16

Trusted by hundreds of thousands everyday for fast, accurate and reliable tech support.

  • "The time we save is the biggest benefit of Experts Exchange to Warner Bros. What could take multiple guys 2 hours or more each to find is accessed in around 15 minutes on Experts Exchange." Mike Kapnisakis, Warner Bros.
  • "Our team likes having a resource that is more secure than just using Google and most experts using this service really know their stuff. It's nice to look here first versus using Google." Dayna Sellner, Lockheed Martin
  • "Anytime that I've been stumped with a problem, 9 out of 10 times Experts Exchange has either the accepted solution or an open discussion of the potential solution to the problem." Kenny Red, eBay Inc.

See what Experts Exchange can do for you.

Got a question?

We've got the answer.

Experts Exchange has been collecting answers to technology questions since 1996…3 million and counting! If you have a question, chances are we already have your answer.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Need individual assistance?

Our experts are ready to help.

If you can't find the exact answer you're looking for, ask our exclusive community of 50,000 experts. You’ll get a personalized answer from a trusted professional.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Want to learn from the best?

Read articles from industry experts.

Thousands of free tech tips, tricks, how-to’s and tutorials are available in our peer reviewed articles section. See for yourself how smart our experts are, no login required.

Screenshot of an Article

Working on a long term project?

Store your work and research.

Save solutions to your questions, answers you’ve discovered through searching plus helpful articles in your personal knowledgebase for easy future access.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Access the answers to your technology questions today.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

What Makes Experts Exchange Unique?

Members of the expert community talk about why the experience at Experts Exchange is different than what you will find anywhere else.

Trusted by the world's most respected brands.

image of each brand's logo

Faithfully serving IT professionals since 1996.

Experts Exchange Logo

Try it out and discover for yourself.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

Related Solutions

  1. freak out
    duron 700 cpu 64mb with zip drive and win98 seems to be freaking out. i have set maintencance wizards for midnight to 3 am and it performs this fucntion in afternoon. when it restars it gets stuck in starup mode with "verify data pool" message. i can not get it ...
  2. Mitigating Risk of Load and Unload Device Drivers
    I am looking for ways to mitigate the security risk inherent in giving users the "Load and unload device drivers" right in XP Pro. My users are mostly road warriors with laptops, often in austere areas for extended periods. Their biggest complaint: They can't inst...
  3. Power User issues
    Hi, I have an issue where our users are unable to add local printer drivers even though they are added to the local power users admin group. Is there a setting that we need to change on the group access or is this something that has to be changed locally on the laptop? We ...
  4. Power Point Printer Idle
    My printer is an HP PSC 2410 and prints fine in all programs except Power Point. I am trying to print my slides and I get and error ...the printer is not responding... it shows the printer as idle...why won't it print?
  5. Core physically unloaded! Error Win2k Stops Responding
    I have a Win2k machine that was working great until about 2-3 months ago. Randomly almost everyday or every few days, it just stops responding to network traffic and is very slow on the local machine. I have looked into the error logs and it just seems as if the computer ju...

Free Tech Articles

  1. WARNING: 5 Reasons why you should NEVER fix a computer for free.
    It is in our nature to love the puzzle. We are obsessed. The lot of us. We love puzzles. We love the challenge. We thrive on finding the answer. We hate disarray. It bothers us deep in our soul. W...
  2. SCCM OSD Basic troubleshooting
    SCCM 2007 OSD is a fantastic way to deploy operating systems, however, like most things SCCM issues can sometimes be difficult to resolve due to the sheer volume of logs to sift through and the dispe...
  3. Migrate Small Business Server 2003 to Exchange 2010 and Windows 2008 R2
    This guide is intended to provide step by step instructions on how to migrate from Small Business Server 2003 to Windows 2008 R2 with Exchange 2010. For this migration to work you will need the fo...
  4. Create a Win7 Gadget
    This article shows you how to create a simple "Gadget" -- a sort of mini-application supported by Windows 7 and Vista. Gadgets can be dropped anywhere on the desktop to provide instant information, ...
  5. Outlook continually prompting for username and password
    There have been a lot of questions recently regarding Outlook prompting for a username and password whilst using Exchange 2007. There are a few reasons why this would happen and I will try to cover t...
  6. Backup Exchange 2010 Information Store using Windows Backup
    There seems to be quite a lot of confusion around the ability to backup Exchange 2010 using the built in Windows Backup feature. This stems from the omission of this feature prior to Exchange 2007 s...

Cloud Class Webinars

  1. Avoiding Bugs in Microsoft Access
    Alison Balter takes and in-depth look at avoiding bugs in Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the immediate window to debug your applications, invoking the debugger, using breakpoints to troubleshoot, stepping through code, setting the next statement to execute, ...
  2. Top 10 Best New Features in Visio 2010
    Scott Helmers gives live demonstrations of the top 10 new features in Visio 2010. This webinar will teach you how to create compelling diagrams by adding shapes to the page with a single click, linking the shapes in a diagram to data in Excel (or SQL Server, or SharePoint), ...
  3. IT Consultant Business Secrets Revealed
    Michael Munger, Experts Exchange tech pro and IT consultant, pulls back the curtain on his very successful businesses and answers question on every IT consultant and business owner should know about. He shares secrets on what he did to solve the 5 most common problems in IT, ...
  4. Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity
    Quest CTO, Mike Billon, gives an overview of the steps involved in building a dunamic disaster recovery plan. Through case studies and an examination of software/hardware tooles for monitoring and testing, you'll gain a better understandin of where you are, where you want ...
  5. Organize Your Visio Diagrams with Containers and Lists
    Scott Helmers uses cross functional flowcharts, wireframe diagrams, data graphic legends and seating charts to teach you: how to ustilize all three new structured diagram components in Visio 2010, the best practices for organizeing shapes in previous version of Visio, how to organize ...
  6. How to Us Objects, Properties, Events and Methods in Microsoft Access
    Alison Dalter gives an in-depbth look at objects, properties, events and methods in Microsoft Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the object browser, referring to objects, working with properties and methods, working with object variables, understanding the ...

Join the Community

Give a Little. Get a Lot.

Join the community of experts here and help other tech pros by answering question in your area of expertise. You can earn FREE access to all Experts Exchange's premium features and resources.

Join the Community

Answers

 

by: dogztarPosted on 2004-02-08 at 10:07:36ID: 10304037

Do the users have rights to write to c:\winnt\system32\spool\drivers\* ?

-dog*

 

by: MarkusKolbeckPosted on 2004-02-08 at 10:10:50ID: 10304052

I assume you double checked that your policies work (the effective settings within the Local Group Policy).

If you have a security issue here on either the file system or within the registry I suggest working with the two sysinternals tools file monitor and registry monitor.
(visit www.sysinternals.com and download these great tools).

Run one tool after the other (uses a lot resources!), try to install your printer, stop the monitoring process and search the results for access denied messages.
I know it records a huge amount of data but the inquiry is worth it.

Let me know your results ...

 

by: dneufeldPosted on 2004-02-08 at 11:08:22ID: 10304323

Power users do not exist as a domain security group. If you wanted to achieve something like this you woud need to create a domain group, and pace them in the local power users group on every computer, then simply add people to that group and they can install printers. Power users can install programs and printers but ony on local computers.

does anyone have a script for adding domain groups to local groups to help him achieve this?

 

by: trimmer11Posted on 2004-02-08 at 21:17:38ID: 10307502

add domain users to the power users group on individual workstations.

 

by: teknowilPosted on 2004-02-09 at 05:22:57ID: 10309621

ok I will clarify a little more. My local power users cannot load printer drivers. I even have that disabled in my security template along with allow users to load unload drivers.

 

by: jason_appelPosted on 2004-02-10 at 12:37:07ID: 10325980

I've run into the same issue on XP. According to KB article 326473, power users can only install printers (with the rights you described) through the add printer wizard. No plug and play. Also, they cannot install any other devices even if they have load driver rights. It has to do with the workstation ACL: only administrators can make permanent changes. I haven't found the solution yet, and I'm not sure if it's applicable to 2000.

 

by: mikeleebrlaPosted on 2004-02-12 at 12:43:02ID: 10346396

the bottom line in xp and 2000 is that local admins can only install software.... MS leaves it up to domain level restrictions for you to restrict your users.... I give all my users local admin rights and then set up GPOs at the domain level to set up security,,, that way i set security in one place,, the DC,,, not by going to each of my 1000 workstations.

 

by: teknowilPosted on 2004-02-13 at 12:43:28ID: 10355914

Ok, maybe I am not clear, for get I said anything about domains, yes I knew about adding domain users to power users locally....if they cant install them as power users to begin with How in the hell is adding domain users to the power users group going to fix it. Like I said before right now the computers are not hooked to a domain. I figure the registry was messed with and there probably is an option that doesnt show up in security templates, becuase I did a fresh install and applied my template and powersusers could install printers. I will award points to the one who knows where in the registry printer restrictions maybe that dont show up on security templates.

 

by: mikeleebrlaPosted on 2004-02-13 at 12:56:42ID: 10356058

if you read my post,, i didnt say add them to power users,,, i said you have to add them to local admin group.... you HAVE to be in local admin group to install some software

 

by: chicagoanPosted on 2004-02-17 at 10:48:27ID: 10384973

I believe you can do this from your desk with rundll32 printui.dll,PrintUIEntry /o /n\\machine\printer

http://techsupt.winbatch.com/TS/T000001031F17.html

 

by: MarkusKolbeckPosted on 2004-02-18 at 05:46:30ID: 10392200

Maybe you mentioned it somewhere and I read over it .... where is the printer physically located? Do your users have permissions to connect to that printer/computer? Maybe you ought to authenticate first ...

 

by: teknowilPosted on 2004-02-18 at 09:36:52ID: 10394659

ok I want everyone to forget I said anything about domains. LOCAL PRINTER, LOCAL USER,  I suspect its a reg key that isnt edited in security templates. I did remedy the problem with a fresh install using my usual security templates and power users can install local printers....but on the affected ones i can put any template i want and they still cant install printers.

 

by: MarkusKolbeckPosted on 2004-02-18 at 09:47:33ID: 10394790

did you check with ww.sysinternal.com's tool regmon? You should be able to  isolate the registry keys with that one.

 

by: chicagoanPosted on 2004-02-18 at 12:37:29ID: 10396423

check
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Print\Providers\LanMan Print Services\ServersAddPrintDrivers
Data Type:      REG_DWORD
Value:            1=restrict this operation to Administrators and Print Operators
                                0=doesn't

 

by: mikeleebrlaPosted on 2004-02-18 at 12:50:40ID: 10396567

when you say affected ones what do you mean?? what is different on these machines from the other ones.

 

by: teknowilPosted on 2004-02-18 at 20:14:21ID: 10399448

chicagoan got it spot on. the moral of the story is .....dont let someone else help you image your computers. They really didnt do us a favor at all.

20120131-EE-VQP-002

3 Ways to Join

30-Day Free Trial

The Experts

98% positive feedback on 31,087 answers since March 2000. angeliii is a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional for his work with MS SQL Server & Develoment.

He has also proven his knowledge of Visual Basic Programming, PHP Scripting and Oracle Databases.

The Experts

97% positive feedback on 10,752 answers since July 2000. lrmoore has more than 18 years experience in the networking industry.

The six-time Mircosoft MVPs specialties include firewalls, virtual private networking, and network management.

Testimonials

"...and excellent source for support... Kind of like having your very own IT dept." Electriciansnet

Testimonials

"I was apprehensive at signing up at first. However... it has already made my life as an IT administrator much easier." JaCrews

Testimonials

"WOW! You guys have great, active, and knowledgeable people on here." moore50

Business Clients

Business Clients

In the Press

"If you’ve got a question... Experts Exchange can supply an answer.”

In the Press

"...an invaluable aid for both IT professionals and those who require tech support."

In the Press

"where IT professionals provide quick answers on just about any topic"

Business Account Plans

Loading Advertisement...