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CD Protection

Asked by: cofneverlivetotell

HI, i have made some software for distribution, how can i make it copyproof?  i dont really care how "brutal" it is, just dont want it to work unless its installed from MY cd, no others.  Can the files be corrupted or something?  or are there any things to prevent copying in the firstplace?


Thanks

Cofneverlivetotell
cofneverlivetotell@hotmail.com

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2004-03-10 at 00:21:58ID20913534
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Answers

 

by: skorpfoxPosted on 2004-03-10 at 01:01:05ID: 10559000

There was a similar question like this earlier that I answered. There really isn't a way to make a CD copy proof, otherwise all companies today would be using it. hehe

What I would recommend is having the program authenticate itself with a server and make the program actively authenticate with the server and have the person who is trying to use the program enter a key while connected with the server. That's pretty much what Windows XP is doing now for its registration key.

So far that seems to be the hardest to thwart for crackers. Physical things on the CD would probably be the utility to install it. Have a local authentication key to unlock the installation program ( associated to each distrobution individually or based on a mathmatical algorithm that verifies the correct sequence of letters numbers). then have that internet based authentication.

Most of that is pretty involved and means you need remote servers and databases of registration keys, but if you are that determined to lock out your software to the world that would be pretty much the way to go.

Hope that helps!

-Skorpfox

 

by: richrumblePosted on 2004-03-10 at 01:50:27ID: 10559244

You can corupt the files... or use a packer that is harder to crack than others. There are lot's of ways to detect if someone is trying to reverse engineer your program, but it's a little harder to get it to self-destruct if you do. i recommend reading Crackproof your software: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1886411794/ref=pd_sim_books_5/103-4223233-5666229?v=glance&s=books it is very informitive... however not for a novice in some respects.
Give "LockFile" a glance here: http://www.securitysoftware.cc/apps.html it does the "breaking" that you were asking about.

Hacker's get around all protection- even the extreme. with windows it's pretty easy to read memory and set your points and disassemble code. There are plenty of mechanisims- however all are thwartable. You can intercept web traffic in the NIC (actually in the processor stack) and fake a response back to the program- you can make a propritary Serial adapter that contains code to unlock your program, or have a usb stick with a PGP key to decyper the program... etc... its all covered in that book above. What the ultimate recommendation is- use the best compiler (his btw) SVK protector http://www.anticracking.sk/
Woodmann is a bit full of himself- however he's been doing this for some time- understand how cracker's are going to crack your software- search for "woodmann pavol cerven" (no quotes) to see how hacker's think and act.
GL!
-rich

 

by: chicagoanPosted on 2004-03-10 at 05:46:08ID: 10560543

CD Media world has an article on copy-protecting CDR's
http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_protect_cd.shtml#FreeLock

If you're having these professionally mastered, discuss you needs with the service bureau.

These measures will stop the casual pirate, probably not the determined cracker.

The concepts of online registration (see above) using a unique identifier derived from the local machine (HD volume serial number, MAC address, windoze product ID, etc. combined with your serial number to populate your database

You could also consider using dongles:
i.e. http://www.ealaddin.com/hasp/default.asp?cf=GooHASP

 

by: korsuasPosted on 2004-04-11 at 02:43:39ID: 10800321

NO.

be serious, there is ABSOLUTELY no software on the market that is not cracked by some more or less elite squad.

you can try however, the commercial stuff. look what it did for Norton or Macromedia...

however, customized protections are a little bit harder to crack.

if you are interested, mail me.

regards,
Adrian Korsuas

 

by: cofneverlivetotellPosted on 2004-09-21 at 00:42:29ID: 12109870

If there is no real way to do this, waht is the recommended answer :S

 

by: richrumblePosted on 2004-09-21 at 06:30:55ID: 12111905

There are several links here that would be useful. I say read up on the subject then decide- but ultimately encryption is going to be the most deterant... as it is the best way to protect yourself on the net, your software can benefit from encryption's protection as well. If you have your program encrypted, doesn't matter if someone copies it... if they don't have the pass... they don't get to use the software. It's a calculated risk.... most companies make you agree to a End User Licesense Agreement (EULA) that states that the user is not to give out the password, or activation code, or distribute the program to anyone etc... but that's all you can do... it's what everyone else does.... but if you find a better way, go for it.
-rich
http://www.rawos.com/easynotes/reference%20guide/chapters/started/eula.htm (EULA example)

 

by: korsuasPosted on 2004-09-29 at 00:26:21ID: 12177367

wow, that's a cool accepted answer! :))

Adrian Korsuas

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