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iptables to prevent ddos

Asked by: valleytech

dear, all
my server's being under heavily attacked. my server's OS: linux whitebox with iptables, apache2.0
i've configed my kernel with appropriate parameters to prenvet SYN flood as well as dDos. My Iptables is also written with this: to drop stealth scans
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,PSH,ACK,URG NONE -j DROP
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN FIN,SYN -j DROP
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN,RST -j DROP
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,RST FIN,RST -j DROP
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,ACK FIN -j DROP
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags ACK,URG URG -j DROP
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags PSH,ACK PSH -j DROP

I added this rule in order to prevent the attacks from that IP address
-A INPUT -s 220.231.65.27 -p tcp -m tcp -m limit --limit 50/sec --limit-burst 150 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable

However, most of my web's vistors used dial up internet, one IPs = thousands of visitors, so that the rule is not a good solution.

The attacker send out a bunch of request with POST (apache2, www.myweb.com/server-status shows this) to a URL.
is there anyway by iptables for my to block certain accesses from a MAC address.
or is therey any solutions by iptables for this kind of attacks

thanks alot alot

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2006-02-04 at 23:58:13ID21724369
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Answers

 

by: ahoffmannPosted on 2006-02-05 at 02:50:28ID: 15875746

> .. block certain accesses from a MAC address.
only if these client are located in the same physical and logical subnet (not switched!), I doubt that this is the case ..

> ..  one IPs = thousands of visitors,
do you say that this IP is used for DDoS? then it might be a wice decission to block that IP at all :-))

 

by: xDamoxPosted on 2006-02-05 at 09:30:05ID: 15877375

Hi,

I would suggest using mod_dosevasive which is available from http://www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dosevasive/
to help proect your server

 

by: valleytechPosted on 2006-02-05 at 11:08:52ID: 15877892

then..is there any way to limit access to certain pages within an interval of time?
how about iptables?....is there anyway to preven thise? ...i've heard that hardware solution will be the best for this kind of problem

 

by: valleytechPosted on 2006-02-05 at 11:11:44ID: 15877900

i've been using mod-evasive also . . . but it's not an appropriate solution

 

by: ravenplPosted on 2006-02-05 at 11:45:29ID: 15878056

On one of my sites, I also needed to cut off the ddos like connections, which was just connect and stay connected(where dosevasive is useless).
The squid proxy in accelerated mode before apache was a sollution for me...

 

by: XoFPosted on 2006-02-05 at 13:52:06ID: 15878775

Have a look at my answer in this thread:

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Security/Linux_Security/Q_21416469.html

Using the dstlimit match for iptables you should be able to block dos attacks even from changing source IPs.

HTH,

-XoF-

 

by: ahoffmannPosted on 2006-02-05 at 15:12:45ID: 15879294

>  then..is there any way to limit access to certain pages within an interval of time?
you still have a rule posted yourself in the question to do that, why are you asking then?

 

by: XoFPosted on 2006-02-05 at 23:51:15ID: 15880938

> >  then..is there any way to limit access to certain pages within an interval of time?
> you still have a rule posted yourself in the question to do that, why are you asking then?

I think the emphasis was on "certain pages". In my understanding, the OP thinks of setting up limits for several different server (html) pages...  
The short & precise answer to that question is:
No, you can't accomplish that by means of iptables.

You could use iptables for such a purpose when using different official IP addresses and IP-based vhosts in apache, so you can set up different limits for each vhost.

HTH,

-XoF-

 

by: ahoffmannPosted on 2006-02-06 at 02:05:02ID: 15881390

> The short & precise answer to that question is:
> No, you can't accomplish that by means of iptables.
disagreed, you can with the iptable's string match module
But I highly recommend to *not* use that for blocking HTTP requests, it's a waste of resources ...

Also: it does not make any sense to block request to URLs in the web server itself, 'cause the DDoS happens exactly there, hence the target victim tries to protect itself, which fails for obvious reason.
If you want to protect a web server based on URLs, you need a special device (phisical seperated hardware with special software) like a WAF (web application firewall), be prepared for $$$ ...

 

by: XoFPosted on 2006-02-06 at 11:57:53ID: 15886166

> disagreed, you can with the iptable's string match module

ACK. Development of netfilter seems to be too fast for me sometimes...;)

Just another thing no one has noticed up to now:
> I added this rule in order to prevent the attacks from that IP address
> -A INPUT -s 220.231.65.27 -p tcp -m tcp -m limit --limit 50/sec --limit-burst 150 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable

That rule is absolutely useless, since it rejects every packet which doesn't come in bursts of at least 50 per second. So in fact DOS packets might actually be allowed. That highly likely isn't what one would want.

The correct rule would be:
-A INPUT -s 220.231.65.27 -p tcp -m tcp -m limit --limit 50/sec --limit-burst 150 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -s 220.231.65.27 -p tcp  -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable

whereby I'd suggest limiting SYN packets only - but then with a fair and strong limit:

-A INPUT -s 220.231.65.27 -p tcp -m tcp --syn -m limit --limit 1/sec --limit-burst 5 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -s 220.231.65.27 -p tcp  -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable




Cheers,

-XoF-

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