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How do you access the physical location of a computer that was used to send an email?

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Is it possible to know the physical location of the computer that was used to write an email and how would you access that information?

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2005-02-14 at 15:29:26ID21314554
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Answers

 

by: gidds99Posted on 2005-02-15 at 00:19:55ID: 13311642

You can look at the header of the email which will show the Hostname / IP address of the sender (let me know if you need help on how to view the header - include which email client you use).

Once you have the hostname or IP of the sender you can use these tools to try and determine the location of the sender:

http://www.infosyssec.com/infosyssec/ipsectools.htm

However, if the sender has wished to conceal their identity it would be easy enough for them to use a proxy or an open mail relay to hide their true location.

Hope this helps.  

 

by: trywaredkPosted on 2005-02-15 at 00:26:50ID: 13311669

No it's not

Many virus-emails are send with a fake "replyer", thus stating, that the email was send from xx@yyy.com to you, faking that it was send from yy@xxx.com


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by: gidds99Posted on 2005-02-15 at 00:28:48ID: 13311686

BTW if you have the IP address of the sender you can try the whois option to get information on the address.

Another resource is:

http://www.dnsstuff.com/

 

by: gidds99Posted on 2005-02-15 at 00:34:56ID: 13311716

As trywaredk has pointed out it is possible for someone to falsify the reply address and also other header information.  

If the email has been sent by someone determined to hide their identity (say a spammer) you wont have much luck tracking them down.

If, however, the email was sent by a standard user using a basic/standard email setup then it is poossible to determine the location using the tools above (whois and reverse whois should be most helpful)  

 

by: kit999Posted on 2005-02-15 at 06:02:16ID: 13313663

gidds99,

So if I type in the IP address it will give me the physical location on the computer?  Or is the address that it pulls up the servers address.   There's was several IP addresses the other one was yahoo and gave me yahoo's address and phone number.  The other one showed and address, do you think that's the one?  Thanks for your help.

 

by: gidds99Posted on 2005-02-15 at 14:46:47ID: 13319172

The header may look something like this:

X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Q1OJDRSDidP
Received: from SWEEP1.uk.abcdefghijklm.com ([62.x.33.x]) by mc8-f9.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600);
       Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:27:56 -0700
Received: from snserv.dom (unverified) by SWEEP1.uk.abcdefghijklm.com
    (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.6) with ESMTP id
    <T634e7d9d3ec0a8cb12780@SWEEP1.uk.abcdefghijklm.com>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:23:37
    +0100
Received: from DTxxxx ([128.5.x.x]) by snserv.dom (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2)

In this header the originating IP address is on the last line (128.5.x.x) - I have changed the actual IP's and domain names in this example as not to expose the actual systems concerned - so to find who sent this you would perform a reverse DNS lookup on 128.5.x.x to investigate further and confirm the ID of the sender.  You can also see that the path of the email is shown, you can see it being received by the server from the client and then it is passed through several mail servers/relays.  Also worth condisering is that if the IP of the originating client is a dynamic one (assigned by an ISP to a dial up customer for example), the best you may be able to do is identify the ISP concerned as the IP would be re-assigned to multiple customers.

You have to consider (as pointed out above) that email headers are often spoofed (falsified) to conceal the senders true identity (this is especially true of spam) and that sometimes you may only get the address of a open mail relay or a proxy.

This article may be of some assistance to you (its not specific to email but gives general pointers on investigating specific hosts):

http://neworder.box.sk/newsread.php?newsid=12967

If it was a Yahoo email address the mail came from you have a decent chance (assuming the header is real and not spoofed) of identifying the Host (or maybe just the proxy) of the sender.

You can post the header (less any specific hosts/IP's) and I can try and point you in the right direction.

 

by: gidds99Posted on 2005-02-15 at 14:51:25ID: 13319195

Here is another couple of links which discuss tracing email in detail:

http://www.visualware.com/resources/tutorials/email.html

http://www.usus.org/elements/tracing.htm

Hope these help.

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