Question

Private Folders

Asked by: superm401

In Windows XP Home, when you right-click on your user folder, and click sharing and security.  One of the options selected is Make this folder private?  How can you deselect that without logging on to the account in question.  I ask because I accidentally deleted that account, and when I recreated it, I could no longer access the folder.

This Question has been solved and asker verified All Experts Exchange premium technology solutions are available to subscription members.

Subscribe now for full access to Experts Exchange and get

Instant Access to this Solution

  • Plus...
  • 30 Day FREE access, no risk, no obligation
  • Collaborate with the world's top tech experts
  • Unlimited access to our exclusive solution database
  • Never be left without tech help again

Subscribe Now

Asked On
2005-07-06 at 16:33:24ID21482765
Tags

private

,

folders

,

xp

Topic

Windows Network Security

Participating Experts
3
Points
500
Comments
19

Trusted by hundreds of thousands everyday for fast, accurate and reliable tech support.

  • "The time we save is the biggest benefit of Experts Exchange to Warner Bros. What could take multiple guys 2 hours or more each to find is accessed in around 15 minutes on Experts Exchange." Mike Kapnisakis, Warner Bros.
  • "Our team likes having a resource that is more secure than just using Google and most experts using this service really know their stuff. It's nice to look here first versus using Google." Dayna Sellner, Lockheed Martin
  • "Anytime that I've been stumped with a problem, 9 out of 10 times Experts Exchange has either the accepted solution or an open discussion of the potential solution to the problem." Kenny Red, eBay Inc.

See what Experts Exchange can do for you.

Got a question?

We've got the answer.

Experts Exchange has been collecting answers to technology questions since 1996…3 million and counting! If you have a question, chances are we already have your answer.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Need individual assistance?

Our experts are ready to help.

If you can't find the exact answer you're looking for, ask our exclusive community of 50,000 experts. You’ll get a personalized answer from a trusted professional.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Want to learn from the best?

Read articles from industry experts.

Thousands of free tech tips, tricks, how-to’s and tutorials are available in our peer reviewed articles section. See for yourself how smart our experts are, no login required.

Screenshot of an Article

Working on a long term project?

Store your work and research.

Save solutions to your questions, answers you’ve discovered through searching plus helpful articles in your personal knowledgebase for easy future access.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Access the answers to your technology questions today.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

What Makes Experts Exchange Unique?

Members of the expert community talk about why the experience at Experts Exchange is different than what you will find anywhere else.

Trusted by the world's most respected brands.

image of each brand's logo

Faithfully serving IT professionals since 1996.

Experts Exchange Logo

Try it out and discover for yourself.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

Related Solutions

  1. Private Appointments
    I know that the exchange administrator can take ownership and read mailboxes if necessary (eg. when someone has left the company, the mailbox can be accessed). Is there also a possibility for an exchange admin to view the private appointments in a users (shared) outlook cale...
  2. Losing private folders
    Hi experts, A user in our company lost his private folders... How is this possible ? Can another certifier be the cause of this ? Is there a way back ? Greetings, Bob
  3. Xp make private folder
    this is a problem with the windows xp proffessional OS using the username protection system i have found out that others user on my pc can access my documents while they are using there own usernames i had tried to make my folder private by right-clicking on folder and then...
  4. Xp make private folder
    this is a problem with the windows xp proffessional OS using the username protection system i have found out that others user on my pc can access my documents while they are using there own usernames i had tried to make my folder private by right-clicking on folder and ...
  5. Unlock "private" folder
    I had a windows XP install on a 6 gig drive at the office. It turned out to not be large enough as they decided to make the machine a web-design machine (Full office 2003 with frontpage AND the whole Macromedia MX studio). Anyway...I put in a new drive, and re-installed eve...

Free Tech Articles

  1. WARNING: 5 Reasons why you should NEVER fix a computer for free.
    It is in our nature to love the puzzle. We are obsessed. The lot of us. We love puzzles. We love the challenge. We thrive on finding the answer. We hate disarray. It bothers us deep in our soul. W...
  2. SCCM OSD Basic troubleshooting
    SCCM 2007 OSD is a fantastic way to deploy operating systems, however, like most things SCCM issues can sometimes be difficult to resolve due to the sheer volume of logs to sift through and the dispe...
  3. Migrate Small Business Server 2003 to Exchange 2010 and Windows 2008 R2
    This guide is intended to provide step by step instructions on how to migrate from Small Business Server 2003 to Windows 2008 R2 with Exchange 2010. For this migration to work you will need the fo...
  4. Create a Win7 Gadget
    This article shows you how to create a simple "Gadget" -- a sort of mini-application supported by Windows 7 and Vista. Gadgets can be dropped anywhere on the desktop to provide instant information, ...
  5. Outlook continually prompting for username and password
    There have been a lot of questions recently regarding Outlook prompting for a username and password whilst using Exchange 2007. There are a few reasons why this would happen and I will try to cover t...
  6. Backup Exchange 2010 Information Store using Windows Backup
    There seems to be quite a lot of confusion around the ability to backup Exchange 2010 using the built in Windows Backup feature. This stems from the omission of this feature prior to Exchange 2007 s...

Cloud Class Webinars

  1. Avoiding Bugs in Microsoft Access
    Alison Balter takes and in-depth look at avoiding bugs in Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the immediate window to debug your applications, invoking the debugger, using breakpoints to troubleshoot, stepping through code, setting the next statement to execute, ...
  2. Top 10 Best New Features in Visio 2010
    Scott Helmers gives live demonstrations of the top 10 new features in Visio 2010. This webinar will teach you how to create compelling diagrams by adding shapes to the page with a single click, linking the shapes in a diagram to data in Excel (or SQL Server, or SharePoint), ...
  3. IT Consultant Business Secrets Revealed
    Michael Munger, Experts Exchange tech pro and IT consultant, pulls back the curtain on his very successful businesses and answers question on every IT consultant and business owner should know about. He shares secrets on what he did to solve the 5 most common problems in IT, ...
  4. Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity
    Quest CTO, Mike Billon, gives an overview of the steps involved in building a dunamic disaster recovery plan. Through case studies and an examination of software/hardware tooles for monitoring and testing, you'll gain a better understandin of where you are, where you want ...
  5. Organize Your Visio Diagrams with Containers and Lists
    Scott Helmers uses cross functional flowcharts, wireframe diagrams, data graphic legends and seating charts to teach you: how to ustilize all three new structured diagram components in Visio 2010, the best practices for organizeing shapes in previous version of Visio, how to organize ...
  6. How to Us Objects, Properties, Events and Methods in Microsoft Access
    Alison Dalter gives an in-depbth look at objects, properties, events and methods in Microsoft Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the object browser, referring to objects, working with properties and methods, working with object variables, understanding the ...

Join the Community

Give a Little. Get a Lot.

Join the community of experts here and help other tech pros by answering question in your area of expertise. You can earn FREE access to all Experts Exchange's premium features and resources.

Join the Community

Answers

 

by: war1Posted on 2005-07-06 at 16:37:53ID: 14383235

Greetings, superm401!
>How can you deselect that without logging on to the account in question.

You need to be in Administrator account to de-select that folder option.

Cheers!

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-07-06 at 17:04:58ID: 14383441

I still have access to administrator accounts.  How do I do it, having logged on to an administrator account?

 

by: war1Posted on 2005-07-06 at 17:07:12ID: 14383486

While logged in as administrator, you can right click on the file and change the setting.

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-07-06 at 17:22:48ID: 14383563

I'm sorry, that doesn't work.  I will post a screenshot illustrating the relevant option.  It's at http://home.comcast.net/~superm40/sharingscreen.jpg .

 

by: war1Posted on 2005-07-06 at 17:28:10ID: 14383601

Can you recreate the deleted account with same name and permissions, and access the folder?

 

by: DeltaFirePosted on 2005-07-06 at 18:52:42ID: 14384016

Windows Home doesnt support Acess Control Lists period. By checking that box your effectively doing this on an ACL:

Yourmachine\UserName ~~>> Full Control.
Yourmachine\Administrators ~>> Full Control. (Not Sure about this one)

That is what happening behind the scenes. You will need to boot in safe mode. If you can access the folder copy out the data out of it. If not you will need to use a command line utility CACLS to change the ACL.

 

by: r-kPosted on 2005-07-06 at 21:58:43ID: 14384724

If you boot in safe mode you should be able to use the Security tab to take ownership of the folder. I think DeltaFire said the same thing in a different way.

 

by: DeltaFirePosted on 2005-07-07 at 07:23:41ID: 14387498

Yes. I am not sure if Administrators group is on the ACL. I will test it when I get home. However I am 100% sure that ACL configuration is not available on Windows XP Home. You can only use simple permissions, since you cant disable simple mode. You can on XP Pro.

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-07-07 at 15:31:37ID: 14392441

>> Can you recreate the deleted account with same name and permissions, and access the folder?
No.  I have created the same account, but it's made a new account folder labelled with my name,then a period, then my current domain.  I can't access the old folder.  That's the problem.

>>You will need to boot in safe mode.
I'll try that when I get back to the computer.  Incidentally, if that's all it takes to get in the folder, it's pointless to have that option at all.  If it were a question of booting to a floppy, it might still be worthwhile.  Can you provide a link to a site where I can acquire CACLS, should that become necessary?

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-07-07 at 15:32:41ID: 14392449

>>No.  I have created the same account
Just to clarify, that's what I did originally, before posting here.

 

by: DeltaFirePosted on 2005-07-07 at 16:48:30ID: 14392834

>> Can you recreate the deleted account with same name and permissions, and access the folder?
That is not possible. When you create an account a new Security Identifier is created (aka SID). Different access token is built on it. So there is no way it can be the same. Windows does not care about User Names all it cares about the SID.

>>You will need to boot in safe mode.
I think the best way to go is to boot in this mode. Since this mode is the "only" true ADmin power on Windows XP Home machine. CACLs should be already installed just go to command prompt and type cacls. You should get the usage clause how to use it. If not you can download it here
http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/ScriptsGuy/cacls.zip

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-07-07 at 19:36:09ID: 14393500

Thank you so much for your help.  After logging on in safe mode, I was able to access the security tab, which was very different from what I'm used to.  I gave my new account(and Admins) full control.  At first, I accidentally omitted the subfolders, but I corrected that by taking "ownership" of my original folder and all its contents.  That also gave me full control over them.  The only things that remained after that was setting the "special folders" in TweakUI(from WinXP Powertoys) to equal what they were before, and changing my background :) .  Thanks a lot for the information, although it's just another sign (among many) that Windows has no real security.

 

by: war1Posted on 2005-07-07 at 19:45:04ID: 14393549

superm401, Did I not state first that you need to be Administrator to take control of the folder?

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-07-07 at 19:52:43ID: 14393598

Yes, but the new account(and others I used) were Administrator to begin with.  You gave me no new information I could use.  I appreciate your time, though.

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-07-07 at 20:02:35ID: 14393671

Here's what may be a useful tip:  If you're ever in a situation like mine, to really make your old account equal your new, go through the registry and change all the references to the new account folder to the old one.  If you don't want to bother doing everything, be sure to at least get the values in My Computer\HKEY Current User\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders.

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-07-07 at 20:02:47ID: 14393673

That was for any reader of the post.

 

by: DeltaFirePosted on 2005-07-08 at 04:03:41ID: 14395856

There is NO way to create the same account by cross-referencing the registry. You can import a user via File and Settings Transfer Wizard. But as far as Windows is concerned the SID is different, so it is a different user. Windows XP has a pretty granular Access Conrol List configuration, with auditing built in. It is just not available in Windows Home, as it was designed for home users, who dont care so much about security.

 

by: DeltaFirePosted on 2005-07-08 at 04:06:02ID: 14395862

In addition there is no way to create an account with and ADmin powers, because Computer Management MMC is simply not availble from the Normal Boot mode. Thats why it is needed to boot into safe mode. If there is anything do let us know :-)

 

by: superm401Posted on 2005-07-08 at 05:30:16ID: 14396328

>>There is NO way to create the same account by cross-referencing the registry.
I know that, but most of the settings will be taken from the old account's folder if you do that.
>>You can imort a user via File and Settings Transfer Wizard.
Thank you.  I may try that.  
>>But as far as Windows is concerned the SID is different, so it is a different user. Windows XP has a pretty granular Access Conrol List configuration, with auditing built in.
I know.  By the time I started modifying the registry, I was no longer trying to recover my data.  Rather, I was trying to get settings

20120131-EE-VQP-002

3 Ways to Join

30-Day Free Trial

The Experts

98% positive feedback on 31,087 answers since March 2000. angeliii is a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional for his work with MS SQL Server & Develoment.

He has also proven his knowledge of Visual Basic Programming, PHP Scripting and Oracle Databases.

The Experts

97% positive feedback on 10,752 answers since July 2000. lrmoore has more than 18 years experience in the networking industry.

The six-time Mircosoft MVPs specialties include firewalls, virtual private networking, and network management.

Testimonials

"...and excellent source for support... Kind of like having your very own IT dept." Electriciansnet

Testimonials

"I was apprehensive at signing up at first. However... it has already made my life as an IT administrator much easier." JaCrews

Testimonials

"WOW! You guys have great, active, and knowledgeable people on here." moore50

Business Clients

Business Clients

In the Press

"If you’ve got a question... Experts Exchange can supply an answer.”

In the Press

"...an invaluable aid for both IT professionals and those who require tech support."

In the Press

"where IT professionals provide quick answers on just about any topic"

Business Account Plans

Loading Advertisement...