trying to use cygwin the way ****I*** want to on vista

Your group is currently "mkgroup".  This indicates that
the /etc/group (and possibly /etc/passwd) files should be rebuilt.
See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then, for example, run
mkpasswd -l [-d] > /etc/passwd
mkgroup  -l [-d] > /etc/group
Note that the -d switch is necessary for domain users.

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ ssh-host-config
Overwrite existing /etc/ssh_config file? (yes/no) yes
Generating /etc/ssh_config file
Overwrite existing /etc/sshd_config file? (yes/no) yes
Privilege separation is set to yes by default since OpenSSH 3.3.
However, this requires a non-privileged account called 'sshd'.
For more info on privilege separation read /usr/share/doc/openssh/README.privsep
.

Should privilege separation be used? (yes/no) yes
Warning: The following function requires administrator privileges!
Should this script create a local user 'sshd' on this machine? (yes/no) yes
Generating /etc/sshd_config file


Warning: The following functions require administrator privileges!

Do you want to install sshd as service?
(Say "no" if it's already installed as service) (yes/no) yes

You appear to be running Windows 2003 Server or later.  On 2003 and
later systems, it's not possible to use the LocalSystem account
if sshd should allow passwordless logon (e. g. public key authentication).
If you want to enable that functionality, it's required to create a new
account 'sshd_server' with special privileges, which is then used to run
the sshd service under.

Should this script create a new local account 'sshd_server' which has
the required privileges? (yes/no) yes

Please enter a password for new user 'sshd_server'.  Please be sure that
this password matches the password rules given on your system.
Entering no password will exit the configuration.  PASSWORD=SSv11BxbaaxB12Nxb5

User 'sshd_server' has been created with password 'SSv11BxbaaxB12Nxb5'.
If you change the password, please keep in mind to change the password
for the sshd service, too.

Also keep in mind that the user sshd_server needs read permissions on all
users' .ssh/authorized_keys file to allow public key authentication for
these users!.  (Re-)running ssh-user-config for each user will set the
required permissions correctly.


Which value should the environment variable CYGWIN have when
sshd starts? It's recommended to set at least "ntsec" to be
able to change user context without password.
Default is "ntsec".  CYGWIN=ntsed tty

The service has been installed under sshd_server account.
To start the service, call `net start sshd' or `cygrunsrv -S sshd'.
chown: changing ownership of `/var/empty': Invalid argument
chown: changing ownership of `/var/log/lastlog': Invalid argument

Host configuration finished. Have fun!

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ ssh-host-config
Overwrite existing /etc/ssh_config file? (yes/no) yes
Generating /etc/ssh_config file
Overwrite existing /etc/sshd_config file? (yes/no) yes
Privilege separation is set to yes by default since OpenSSH 3.3.
However, this requires a non-privileged account called 'sshd'.
For more info on privilege separation read /usr/share/doc/openssh/README.privsep
.

Should privilege separation be used? (yes/no) yes
Generating /etc/sshd_config file

Host configuration finished. Have fun!

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ CYGWIN="ntsec tty"

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ net start sshd
The CYGWIN sshd service is starting.
The CYGWIN sshd service could not be started.

The service did not report an error.

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 3534.


kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ cygrunsrv --start sshd

it's still not werking

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ cygrunsrv --start sshd
cygrunsrv: Error starting a service: QueryServiceStatus:  Win32 error 1062:
The service has not been started.


kayve@kayve-PC ~
$

OK, so the service hasn't started.  Let's figure out why.

You've been warned that the /etc/group and  /etc/passwd files may have to be rebuilt, so why don't you start there if you haven't already.

Looks like you need a user "sshd_server" on Windows, and then you have to make sure the cygwin SSH service is running as that user.

i'm pretty sure i have followed the instructions in the past in XP, and i just answered "yes"  maybe
my user isn't "kayve" (the cygwin prompt says "kayve-PC") but when i connected to local host, it
said something like "service not found" which doesn't seem like a user error.

also.. the fix on the other doohickey on the permissions i think plain let me run the dingy.. above

i'm wondering about these statements:

chown: changing ownership of `/var/empty': Invalid argument
chown: changing ownership of `/var/log/lastlog': Invalid argument

oh wait.. i guess it DID failed..

so i how do i rebuilding /etc/group and /etc/passwd.  that sounds sorta scary

btw.. on the other question, i am not at home now, i am at skewl where there is a printer.  however..
i am hemming and hawing over a job app at the moment, so i haven't printed anything out.  i suspect
when i come home i am going to see that diff found exactly one image file that was "only" in one
directory, becuase i already know that there are 647 objects in one directory and 646 in the other.
after that u will get those other points.

hopefully "only" isn't spelled "Only"  {:P

If you open a new bash shell, it should give you instructions on how to rebuild those files.  In fact you posted them earlier in this thread:

Your group is currently "mkgroup".  This indicates that
the /etc/group (and possibly /etc/passwd) files should be rebuilt.
See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then, for example, run
mkpasswd -l [-d] > /etc/passwd
mkgroup  -l [-d] > /etc/group
Note that the -d switch is necessary for domain users.

didn't werk


Your group is currently "mkgroup".  This indicates that
the /etc/group (and possibly /etc/passwd) files should be rebuilt.
See the man pages for mkpasswd and mkgroup then, for example, run
mkpasswd -l [-d] > /etc/passwd
mkgroup  -l [-d] > /etc/group
Note that the -d switch is necessary for domain users.

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ man mkpasswd

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ mkpasswd -l
SYSTEM:*:18:544:,S-1-5-18::
Administrators:*:544:544:,S-1-5-32-544::
Administrator:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:500:513:U-kayve-PC\Administrator,S-1-5-21-258
8090852-2316546250-2693295946-500:/home/Administrator:/bin/bash
Guest:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:501:513:U-kayve-PC\Guest,S-1-5-21-2588090852-23165462
50-2693295946-501:/home/Guest:/bin/bash
kayve:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1000:513:U-kayve-PC\kayve,S-1-5-21-2588090852-2316546
250-2693295946-1000:/home/kayve:/bin/bash
sshd:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1001:513:sshd privsep,U-kayve-PC\sshd,S-1-5-21-2588090
852-2316546250-2693295946-1001:/var/empty:/bin/bash
sshd_server:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1002:513:sshd server account,U-kayve-PC\sshd_se
rver,S-1-5-21-2588090852-2316546250-2693295946-1002:/var/empty:/bin/bash

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ mkpasswd -l >/etc/passwd

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ mkgroup -l > /etc/group

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ net start sshd
The CYGWIN sshd service is starting.
The CYGWIN sshd service could not be started.

The service did not report an error.

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 3534.


kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ ssh-host-config
Overwrite existing /etc/ssh_config file? (yes/no) yes
Generating /etc/ssh_config file
Overwrite existing /etc/sshd_config file? (yes/no) yes
Privilege separation is set to yes by default since OpenSSH 3.3.
However, this requires a non-privileged account called 'sshd'.
For more info on privilege separation read /usr/share/doc/openssh/README.privsep
.

Should privilege separation be used? (yes/no) yes
Generating /etc/sshd_config file

Host configuration finished. Have fun!

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ net start sshd
The CYGWIN sshd service is starting.
The CYGWIN sshd service could not be started.

The service did not report an error.

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 3534.


kayve@kayve-PC ~
$

I don't trust the sshd-server installation.  You had the following errors on initial configuration:

chown: changing ownership of `/var/empty': Invalid argument
chown: changing ownership of `/var/log/lastlog': Invalid argument

That might be a cause for issues, and you can probably check by looking at the contents of /var.

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ ls /var
cache  cron  empty  lib  log  run  tmp

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ ls /var
cache  cron  empty  lib  log  run  tmp

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ touch /var/empty

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ touch /var/log/lastlog

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ ls

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ ls /var
cache  cron  empty  lib  log  run  tmp

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ ls /var/log
lastlog  setup.log  setup.log.full  sshd.log

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ ls /var
cache  cron  empty  lib  log  run  tmp

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ touch /var/empty

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ touch /var/log/lastlog

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ ls

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ ls /var
cache  cron  empty  lib  log  run  tmp

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ ls /var/log
lastlog  setup.log  setup.log.full  sshd.log

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$

kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ net start sshd
The CYGWIN sshd service is starting.
The CYGWIN sshd service could not be started.

The service did not report an error.

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 3534.


kayve@kayve-PC ~
$ cygrunsrv --start sshd
cygrunsrv: Error starting a service: QueryServiceStatus:  Win32 error 1062:
The service has not been started.


kayve@kayve-PC ~
$

http://ncyoung.com/entry/389

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2007-04/msg00438.html

http://erdelynet.com/archive/ssh-l/2002-12/0771.html

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-12/msg00828.html

Judging by those posts, I'd wager you're still stuck with no running service.  I'm sorry man, but this is where I have to defer to someone who is actually running a copy of Vista.  I could probably mess with things to make it work, but I wouldn't be able to walk someone through it until I've done it myself.  I'm also going on vacation in about 10 hours, so I don't think I'll be able to to post again.  Sorry.

Hope someone else can chime in here.

oh well.. i **think** i subscribed to the cygwin mailing list, but jeez, it isn't like the freeBSD lists.. i have been on for a couple of hours, i think the freeBSD list would have sent me about 10 emails by now, i just got a couple of bot messages that are making me wonder if i did it right.

Ok, here's what you said "i don't have permissions to install the freek"

If you don't have permissions, are you not administrator on the system?  If that's the case, is it possible that you can't open ports to run sshd on Vista?  If you don't have administrator access, a lot of things are denied to you.

i have permissions dood... haven't been able to make the secure shell application connect to the sshd running on cygwin tho.. that would be kewl because actually experienced the character buffer madness that got me running on secure shell in the first place.  character buffer lag means keystrokes in up t0 10 second limbo.. lag

0k,

d00d,

Vista has a lot of problems with overly securing their ports.  I don't have vista myself, but I tried getting exceed and cygwin to forward X packets through an ssh tunnel to the vista, but it didn't work.  I didn't have that much time to play with it since it wasn't my laptop and they had to leave.  I believe that you can't log in as Administrator by default which means that the installation may not be fully compeleted.  Also, you have the service running as the sshd_server account.  It's possible that this account does not have permissions to open up a port so it fails.  Maybe a windows server service didn't start so sshd couldn't start?

It's also possible that your installation of cygwin is corrupt.  I had that happen once in Windows 2003.  After a major re-install, I got it working again.  You also can't just copy cygwin folders from system to system.  There are registry settings that need to be set to.  The setup file installs stuff in the registry and sometimes doesn't complete properly, which means you have to run cygwin setup again.

It seems like vista's a lot more trouble than it's worth.  I'm glad I don't have to migrate anything to that yet until everyone else messes with it.

hmm.. git back 2 u when i get back to frisko. in feenix where they say the wires is MAC address dependent

p.s.  
  is u saying i is one of deez?

http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/W/warez-d00dz.html

i'm afraid i am much more of a

http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/L/lamer.html

o wait.. i upload.. i ferget

http://www.kayve.net/kayve/

http://www.chessyoga.org/

does that make me not a lamer?