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How to create multiple projects in version control "Serena Changeman version manager v8.1.3"

Asked by: HARLIBRA

Hi there. We need to change the env in our version control. Right now the developers have direct access to the production source code for check in and check outs which is creating problems. The main problem is if the object is check in by mistake and exe is made and release to the users then it takes a while to undo the changes.
we want to have 3 separate enviroments such as development, test and production.
The developer should have access to the develop environment only for check in and check outs.
so whoever is creating the test exe must do a get latest on the latest check in objects
from the develop environment  and put them in the test environment to make a release for testing.
Once the users are OK with the test release then whoever is creating a production exe
will do a get latest on the latest check in objects from the test environment and
 put them in the production environment to make a final exe for production.
I don't know if this is the best solution and if it is how we can do it. How I can create new projects in Serena what are the steps. We are using  Serena Changeman version control v8.1.3.The application is written in PowerBuilder 10.2.1.

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by: sandeep_patelPosted on 2008-09-07 at 13:59:34ID: 22412845

I don't recommend to create separate env. You may have problem if something goes wrong when you merge code to test and production env from dev env. There are chances that changes are there in dev env and test env but not in prod env.

Hope there must be a labeling facility in your version control system like others. Better use it...

For Example...
1. For each release first create a new lable and apply it to all source code. (say lable_version1.0_c1)
2. Then start changes for that release.
3. Whenever there is a need for testing, apply another lable (say lable_version1.0_c2...then...c3.....then..cn)
4. Now once it is tested OK, apply final lable (say lable_version1.0_final)
5. Ask the person who is creating prod exe to get latest only from (lable_version1.0_final)

Even this approach will be easy for you whenever you want source code for previous release.

Hope this will help you.

Regards,
Sandeep

 

by: HARLIBRAPosted on 2008-09-07 at 21:22:50ID: 22414655

Thanks sandeep. Is labeling same as the version nos that are maintined in the archives. what do you mean by
""For each release first create a new lable and apply it to all source code. (say lable_version1.0_c1)
Then start changes for that release.""
Do we change lables once the object is check in from PB??
You mentioned that we may have problem if something goes wrong when you merge code to test and production env from dev env. There are chances that changes are there in dev env and test env but not in prod env.
But we will only be using test and prod env for creating exe not to change code.

Is there any other way of doing this other than labeling or creating three separate projects for dev, test and prod.

 

by: sandeep_patelPosted on 2008-09-08 at 08:07:14ID: 22418110

Hi,
First let me answer your questions...

<<<But we will only be using test and prod env for creating exe not to change code.>>>...As per your plan you want to create three different env. which means three copies of source code. Now you worked on dev env and latest changes are in dev env. Any some point it should go to test and prod env. How will you do it? You have to put the latest changes from dev to those env and there are chances of mistake in it.

<<<Is there any other way of doing this other than labeling or creating three separate projects for dev, test and prod.>>>....Make proper communication between dev,test and prod team so that always they have the code after sign off from upstream team.

<<<Do we change lables once the object is check in from PB??>>>...First check can you apply label to your source code in your VCS (version control system)? If yes then go through manual, it will explain you how you can apply and how you can get the latest code from any label. You should be able to apply label to entire source code at any point time...Like save point in Oracle Database.

Meanwhile let me check about Serena on net. If I can find anything about it. I never used this VCS. But I believe all VCS works the same way.

Regards,
Sandeep

 

by: HARLIBRAPosted on 2008-09-09 at 10:08:45ID: 22429677

Thanks Sandeep. Please can you explain what do you you mean by
"applying and getting  the latest code from any label".
are the steps will be in this order
1. Before starting check in and check outs for a new release we will apply the label(lable_version1.0_c1) to the whole source code in the app.
2. Then once the develop is complete we will check in the change objects
3. then we will change the labels for those objects in VCS to (lable_version1.0_c2...then...c3.....then..cn)
4. The developer who is creating the test exe will do a get latest on the objects with the label (lable_version1.0_c2)
5. Once the testing is complete we will change the labels to final lable (say lable_version1.0_final)
Please can you explain what do you mean by
"Even this approach will be easy for you whenever you want source code for previous release."

Whats the difference between a label and a revision.
when we apply label to a revision can we still do check outs on the revision.
I have noticed we can also do labelling diectly in PB
will appreciate your response.
thanks



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