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Microsoft Navision SQL Database Size

Asked by: navedj786

Hi,
I have an external consultant who is deploying Microsoft Navision 4.0 in our enterprise. They are having issue at the moment with the harddrive space size which is about 50GB. The problem now that i have checked online even Navision 4.0 backedn of SQL doesn't exceed more than 2GB of data in 2 year transaction of opening balance & inventory whereas on posting itself the sql database size have reached now about to 35GB where they want more space for the same.
Please advise to the same if the consultant are correct on their path or they have done mistakes on the database where it's generating such a huge size because if it's not an error i am imagning when the transactions will start where the size will reach.

Correct me if wrong.

Thanks.

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2009-08-01 at 22:17:01ID24619499
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Answers

 

by: mwvisa1Posted on 2009-08-02 at 09:56:43ID: 24999421

navedj786,

Initial note: when dealing with enterprise systems like Navision, there are probably good statistics on typical sizes and capacity specifications, but each company will probably see differences based on how they use the software and amount/frequency of transactions they have.

The size different of 35GB versus 2GB depends heavily on definitions of what is in that size and setup of system.

e.g., is the 2GB estimated strictly for the MDF (data file) for the MS SQL Server back end?

When installing MS SQL Server, you have the application binaries, the temp database, the MDF for your database, the LDF (log file) for your database, etc. that all take up space of their own.

If indeed the SQL database is 35GB by itself and you are not live yet, I would check the size of the individual files and see if the space is in the log or the data.  Then check to see if actually being used.  If you are in implementation phase and have been doing tons of testing, importing of data, deleting records, etc. you may have a large transaction log file and/or have a good amount of unused space within the database size.

Won't hurt to have more space though for database backups, transaction log growth, temp database usage, etc. in the future; therefore, personally, you may want to add space for production environment anyway.  A good practice is to have your SQL base code on one volume/partition; data files, on another; log files; on another.

Regards,
Kevin

 

by: mwvisa1Posted on 2009-08-02 at 09:58:06ID: 24999429

BTW, you will want to do regular database backups which should keep your transaction logs at a manageable size.

 

by: mwvisa1Posted on 2009-08-10 at 06:19:12ID: 25059635

The question was on why was the database size so large and my responses pointed to the fact that the system may have transactions logs or empty space in the data file.  If the solution is:

"i did it myself by the command lines at sql & shrinked the size."

Then my answer was correct.

Additionally, I think I provided other useful information on why which was the question.

Sorry I had to, navedj786, but why would you [1] not respond to my comments; [2] delete question stating a solution that I offered without giving credit?

 

by: mwvisa1Posted on 2009-08-10 at 07:11:17ID: 25060015

My recommendation would be:

Accept http:#a24999421.

 

by: navedj786Posted on 2009-08-10 at 12:53:16ID: 25063429

nope what you said it didn't helped me exactly so i tried moving the log database as it is on the other drive than took the full backup and with the help of microsoft site i got the commands and i truncated the mdb database where then after restart of service the size of mdb reduced.

 

by: mwvisa1Posted on 2009-08-10 at 13:01:02ID: 25063495

Please review your own question as you asked is the consultant correct or not in requesting new space on the server and not how do I shrink the size.  

Despite that I went to answer both questions as I offered you a suggestion that the size could be correct based on differences in each persons installation of an ERP system but to check your files.  Re-read my comment, specifically here:

"If indeed the SQL database is 35GB by itself and you are not live yet, I would check the size of the individual files and see if the space is in the log or the data.  Then check to see if actually being used.  If you are in implementation phase and have been doing tons of testing, importing of data, deleting records, etc. you may have a large transaction log file and/or have a good amount of unused space within the database size."

If you were able to truncate you MDF and/or LDF file to fix the problem then what I said here was correct as you had to have had unused space.  If this were not true, then you would not have gotten reduced size as truncating won't eliminate data actually in use, it will merely reclaim unused space in MDF.

Anyway, if you had responded to comment, I could have easily expounded on the how to.  Just for your future knowledge, if your question is answered but you have follow-up thought or feedback, you should give the experts who responded the courtesy of a post back and a chance to aid you in the next step.  

Respectfully yours,

mwvisa1

 

by: mwvisa1Posted on 2009-08-10 at 13:05:57ID: 25063535

Guess I am glad you found the answer on your own and, even more importantly, that the systems integrators you had assisting you were not being straight-forward with you (at least per your other question).

Good luck with the remainder of the project.

isa

 

by: navedj786Posted on 2009-08-10 at 13:06:01ID: 25063537

you are right but as it was unclear and i had to do the following at urgent basis so i took the ms online help anyhow as the post reply is concerned i shud have but cudn't get chance as i was having short span of time.

 

by: mwvisa1Posted on 2009-08-10 at 13:10:48ID: 25063583

Thanks for the response.  Again, good luck, as ERP implementations are tough ordeals (more so on the process transformation side than the technology, but still) so wish you all the best.

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