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Trojan-Downloader.JS.Psyme.hz

Asked by: mrmoderate

I ran a scan using Kapersky's online scan tool.  I did this twice.  (BTW, I'm running Windows XP Media Center Edition SP3 and IE 8.0.6....)

The first time, I came up with 4 trojan downloaders: Trojan-Downloader.JS.LuckySpoit.e, Trojan-Downloader.JS.Psyme.hz, another instance of Trojan-Downloader.JS.Psyme.hz, and Trojan-Downloader.JS.Iframe.vz.  Apparently, I got rid of the first 3 by uninstalling the application in whose folder the trojan resided.  Also, I got rid of the 4th (the subject of this thread) by just deleting the file and emptying the Recycle Bin.  Then, if I recall, I restarted the PC.

Then, I re-ran the Kaspersky scan.  It, again, came up with the Trojan-Downloader.JS.Psyme.hz; this time it was in a different file.  Both files were contained in the path F:\BackupOnlyESS\My Documents--EMERGENCY BACKUP OF NEW D DRIVE ONLY--Eric\Downloads\members.tsmtravel.com\[2 different yada, yada, yada subfolders].  (Last period closes the sentence.  Not part of path.)  I'm going to, again delete the file Trojan-Downloader.JS.Iframe.vz, the allegedly infected file.  (BTW the "I" in "IFrame" is an "I," as in indigo, not an "L" as in Lotus.)  I'm going to empty the Recycle Bin, restart the PC, download the latest version of Java (I have multiple Java icons in the SysTray), restart the PC, and re-run the Kaspersky online scanner.  We'll see what happens.

TWO QUESTIONS:

(1)  What's the deal?  Kaspersky online scanner (or whatever it's called) found Trojan-Downloader.JS.Iframe.vz the first time around.  It only found the second instance of it the second time I ran the scan.  Did Kaspersky miss it, or did the malware re-create itself, only to be detected the second time around?

(2)  What are the trustworthy sites (e.g., Kaspersky and Symantec) that have an online scanner function?  (I don't know if Symantec even has this.)  It's been suggested on other sites, notably in a CNET forum, that http://www.sophos.com/security/analyses/trojmaranar.html will take care of my problem.  I've never heard of Sophos.  Are they trustworthy?  Is this tool a freebee, or at least one that won't make me uninstall NIS09 (see next paragraph)?

Finally, I should note that I've been running Norton Internet Security 2009 (NIS09).  It missed this trojan, both when running a full system scan and when I told it to scan the file detected on the second running of Kaspersky's online scanner.  So, there's actually a third question:

(3) Do I have a problem with NIS09?  Or, does it suck, despite all of the wonderful reviews?  Or, do I have it incorrectly configured?  Or, is the Kaspersky online scanner paranoid or otherwise malfunctioning?  I don't think the Kaspersky online scanner is just a sales tool, designed to scare potential customers, as I ran it previously on another PC, and it came up clean.

Thanks much.

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by: D-FensPosted on 2009-09-08 at 15:05:20ID: 25286562

I wouldn't worry about the legitimacy of Sophos (http://www.sophos.com/) its perfectly safe, so rest assured it wont do any damage to your system.

I also highly doubt that Kapersky will just find a trojan just to make you buy their product, especially as you've said that you've run it on another machine with it detecting anything

Norton Internet Security may not have that particular trojan in its dictionary as new viruses are distributed every day, and its extremely hard for anti virus companies to keep their definitions up-to-date.


Try the Sophos solution and let us know how you get on, hope this information has been of some use to you :)

 

by: MaerosPosted on 2009-09-25 at 20:32:29ID: 25428690

Symantec does have a free online scanner like Kaspersky called Symantec Security Check.

http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/home.asp

Whenever you delete certain files of certain viruses, they can be partially broken and may be capable of partial repair.  The label "Trojan.Downloader" means that the virus downloads components off the Internet to build an infection on the affected machine.

Kaspersky's Online Scanner is definitely not meant as a "scare" tool by any regard - Kaspersky is considered a premiere and professional AV solution right alongside known veterans such as Symantec.  Every AV is never 100% effective, and various AVs catch things which other AVs do not.  Pretty much every major AV company offers their own kind of online scanner, and every single one is - in essence - a potential sales tool as it detects legitimate infections (and offers you to clean them out if you buy their solution).

NIS 2009 is by no means a bad product.  While there are many naysayers of Norton/Symantec, this stigma was primarily attached to their older products from a few years ago due to its bloatiness (it has leaned considerably recently).  But, again, Norton does not catch everything - no AV does.

Deleting infected files is not enough with modern day viruses.  These days they hook and attach right down to the driver and OS level, which means that simply deleting infected files will not remove an infection.

If you do not wish to spend additional money on a scanner/remover, there are excellent free on-demand scanners out there which are great and removing infections, such as Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware (MBAM).  Now, I am not saying you should replace NIS 2009 - MBAM is great for dealing with those one-off infections which pre-existing AVs aren't able to get rid of.  Install and update MBAM, and then run a thorough scan in Safe Mode (make sure you do it in Safe Mode as this assists in removal due to the inherent restrictions tying the hands of infections).

http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

By the way I should inform you that Sophos is primarily designed for corporate use - it can be unwieldy, and unfortunately its rate of false-positive detections (falsely detecting viruses) is quite high.

I should note in terms of Norton that 2009 is not Symantec's latest engine - 2010 is now out.  However if you do wish to use another security suite akin to NIS, Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 is solid.

 

by: MaerosPosted on 2009-09-25 at 20:40:33ID: 25428705

On an additional note, if you want to verify if certain files are indeed infected by other AV products, you should try running it through a comprehensive online AV scanner such as VirusTotal.  As long as the file is 10MB in size or less, VirusTotal will scan the file using virtually every single major AV program on the market (and a few non-major ones as well) in only a minute or two.  The service is free and is provided with the mutual co-operation of the participating AVs (39 of them in all by last count).  This "super" file scan does not clean infections, but it will certainly give you 38 second opinions.

http://www.virustotal.com/

To properly interpret the results, see how many AV scanners come up with positive results.  If only one or two do, chances are it "might" be a false positive.  Keyword is "might" as it could very well simply be something other AV scanners have yet to write signatures for.  If many scanners come up with positive results, chances are extremely high that the file scanned is genuinely infected.

 

by: MaerosPosted on 2009-09-25 at 20:54:31ID: 25428743

CORRECTION:

My apologies, I forgot to include an important notation when running MBAM while compiling my response.  Run MBAM first in Normal Mode, clean what you can, and then reboot.  If there is still an active infection after this, _then_ boot into Safe Mode and repeat the process.

 

by: kart4578Posted on 2009-12-25 at 02:34:57ID: 26121887

u better go for another choice like webroot internet security or G-data internet security since i used all version of kaspersky in that only kaspersky IS 2007 is the best.so if u want to use the kaspersky only, then go for 2007 version.otherwise try the above security.since i tried a lot and finally using this... Thanks kart4578

 

by: mrmoderatePosted on 2010-01-29 at 21:18:00ID: 31625696

I don't know if the solutions offered were correct.  Thus, I gave the grades B and Partially.

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