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Best antispam solution

Asked by: GraemeEvans1

I am looking for recomendations of products to try for antispam solutions. I will be looking to deploy for a range of companies ranging from 5-500 users and all have their own server running various versions of exchange. Buget is allways a concern but some of my clients will be happy to pay if it's going to work.

I have used GFI and had issues where the software had broken mail delivery on occasion and also Postini but am seeing a lot of very blatent spam leaking through postini recently.

Any options welcome including opinions of GFI/Postini/Others both positive and negative.

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Answers

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-23 at 02:30:52ID: 25401183

I am trialling Vamsoft ORF on the recommendation of Mestha - EE's leading Exchange Expert and so far - in 23 days ZERO spam. (www.vamsoft.com).

Great product, small footprint, easy to setup / configure, easy to monitor the logs, great price $239 per server and has a trial version so you can decide if you like it or not before buying it, which I am sure you will, as I will be on Monday!

 

by: AwinishPosted on 2009-09-23 at 02:32:53ID: 25401192

Well,from my previous organization experience where we used Iron port to filter span on mails. I would recommend you for Iron port.Its a good solution for spam mail filter.

 

by: ahmedabdelbasetPosted on 2009-09-23 at 04:20:32ID: 25401803

Hi, I always use and recommend the following , since both integrated with Infrastructure especially Exchange servers  


Microsoft Antigen for Exchange 2003 and SMTP gateway + IMF features built in in Exchange 2003 sp2

Microsoft Forefront for Exchange Server for Exchange 2007  + Anti spam built-in in Exchange 2007


Thanks




 

by: mszal101Posted on 2009-09-23 at 05:08:39ID: 25402148

Not sure if you prefer hardware or software but we use a hardware barracuda unit - and it works pretty flawlessly.

 

by: GraemeEvans1Posted on 2009-09-23 at 13:51:49ID: 25407818

I think I am going to evaluate ORF, thanks alanhardisty. I have actually used the Microsoft products and seen only a cut by 50%-60% of spam, even Postini (despite its current issues) achieves 96%+ it used to be 99.9% but its been getting weaker for a while on most of my clients. I have also seen Red Condor elsewhere and am going to try that too. Iron Port is way too expensive.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-23 at 13:55:43ID: 25407846

If you do trial it and you don't get good results - let me know and I can assist you with tweaking it so that hopefully it can work as well as mine.

 

by: GraemeEvans1Posted on 2009-09-23 at 14:18:54ID: 25408062

alanhardisty,

How much do you have to tweak it, I have around 10 clients who would have the solution immediately and maybe another 40 interested. I really haven't the time to spend tweaking anti-spam settings (its why I currently have most of them on postini). Once set up I would it run for say a year without further changes?

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-23 at 14:26:10ID: 25408125

Sure - once it is setup - leave it alone.

I am thinking more about how zealous you want to be.  There are lots of ways to block spam with Vamsoft and it depends on your choices as to the tests you setup initially.

You could just leave it at greylisting and that would reduce it by a large amount, but you can use IP Blacklists, URL Blacklists, Use Recipient Validation, Use Reverse DNS lookups to reject those without RDNS setup, Honeypots, etc, the list is quite extensive.

There is filtering before arrival and on arrival or both, plus tarpit delay and all these can be setup.  It all deends on the environment and there is a best practise guide for differing configurations.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-23 at 14:28:11ID: 25408135

The only tweaking I have done is to filter the logs on the Invalid Recipients list, check the ones with lots of invalid recipients to the same name and adding those invalid recipients to the Honeypot list.  This can then block the sending IP for a specified period of time.

You can just set it and forget it - I like to tweak!

 

by: fnichelsonPosted on 2009-09-24 at 07:03:20ID: 25413443

We have changed from GFI to Barracuda.  Been using it for about an year now, the only problem we have faced so when my Director changed a pssword which we used to tie the Barracuda to AD (LDAP).  Other then that, its been great.  Also the few times I had to call their tech support, I spoke with a tech from Colorado which for us was a good thing.

Were using a Barracuda 400.  Its able to handle up to 700,000+ spam messages each day with no problem.

http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/products/spam_overview.php

 

by: Texas_BillyPosted on 2009-09-24 at 07:04:14ID: 25413452

What are the specific requirements of the solution?  You want to block spam and limit falst positives, of course; but do you also want customers to receive a daily email showing them what's in spam and giving them the option to pass thru, whitelist, delete, etc?  Or do you just want it to block spam and not bother the user?

If you want customers to have a portal to log in and view spam, IronPort (as previously recommended) is an excellent solution, works a treat.  The drawback is cost; Cisco is quite proud of that software, it's very expensive.  Another good one is the Barracuda appliance, it's a great one, but again, quite expensive.  

For a customer portal, I'd recommend a hosted solution.  In Haus has a nice solution, it's a hosted Barracuda appliance, I've seen very good results from it.  MX Logic also does  a pretty good job, but there are more false positives than I'd like.

If you can live without the customer portal, I recommend spamhaus.org.  It's a free service, you need only put something in front of your exchange server that will query RBL servers, and use zen.spamhaus.org and your RBL, and you're done.  It works beautifully - never seen a false positive, spam is virtually non-existant with it - and it doesn't cost any money.  I donate money monthly to them, but none is required.  They'll keep track of you though, so if you host 3000 mailboxes or something, they'll want you to pay their enterprise costs.  But if you're setting up customer servers, use spamhaus (provided they don't need the portal).  I've talked customers into trying it, and they've quickly found that the portal is an unnecessary nuisance and waste of time.  With Exchange 2007, you can have the mail server itself query RBLs, use spamhaus and you simply won't get spam.  With prior version, you'll need to put something in front of the server that will query RBLs.  The symantec gateway works ok, turn off all the heuristic detection, just use RBLs, hit spamhaus, you're golden.  Stay away from the McAfee SIG appliance, imho.  

 

by: mszal101Posted on 2009-09-24 at 07:32:27ID: 25413727

I also have experience with Red Condor - they also work quite well.

 

by: bitMASTERSPosted on 2009-09-24 at 10:29:29ID: 25415692

I've used the 3rd party solutions and paid a bundle to do so.  I have cancelled them all and now rely on Connection Filtering which is set up in the same area as IMF under the Connection Filtering tab.  This is essentially what the 3rd party folks do but it's free!  Simply add one or more block list services which are generally free (there are some you can pay for out there).  My three favorite in order of preference (I include all 3 on my server but you will want to test to see what works for you) are:

1. Spamhaus (zen.spamhaus.org)
2. Barracuda (b.barracudacentral.org) You must register for this one but it's still free
3. UCEProtect-3 (dnsbl-3.uceprotect.net)

There are many others and variations from each provider as well.  After much testing, I believe the 3 above enabled and in the order listed provide exceptional spam protection.

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