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Thoughts on Maia Mailguard 1.02a

Asked by: Shylok

Working on a install for my work using Maia Mailguard.  A couple admins I've talked to use it and swear by it.  Having reduced SPAM significantly.  Just wanted to ping the world to see what their thoughts were and any negatives/positives and suggestions for it.  It'll initially be in front of a Exchange 2k3 server and in the future a Exchange 2010 box.  Approx 150-200mailboxes.  Currently BCC spams and spoofed emails from domain users to other domain users is a issue.  Trend Micro server is obviously failing.

Any setup tips are welcome.  It'll be running in a VM.

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Answers

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-19 at 12:39:53ID: 25374218

Don't know this particular product, but since installing Vamsoft ORF (www.vamsoft.com) I have had ZERO spam.  This software is amazing and brilliant value at $239 per server no matter how many mailboxes.  Mestha, EE's leading Exchange Expert recommended it to me, and I have to say that it is absolutely fantastic.

Also managed to make another EE user happy:

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Industry_Specific/Publishing/Q_24702308.html#a25318084

 

by: ShylokPosted on 2009-09-19 at 15:50:29ID: 25375080

Thanks for the info.  I'd like to stick with the current option at the moment unless it doesn't work out.  I'm just looking for details on Maia Mailguard.

Cheers

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-19 at 16:00:49ID: 25375112

In terms of reducing your own domain to own domain spam - with Exchange 2K3, you can setup sender filtering to filter out mail sent from your own domain (either by the entire domain, or if you have external users using SMTP / POP3, using individual names).

Check out this document for details of how to kill these types of spam messages.

http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Sender-Recipient-Filtering.html

 

by: ShylokPosted on 2009-09-19 at 16:56:16ID: 25375333

But wouldnt' setting up sender filtering from my own domain.. block ALL messages from my own domain to my own domain?? not just spam?   I see in the headers that the IPs are Russian or Brazilian.  But they're from juser@mywork.com to auser@mywork.com;zuser@mywork.com  and all the recipients are real email addresses this isn't random guessing users.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:01:38ID: 25375349

Sender filtering is exactly that - it filters based on the purported sender of the message.

Messages from your domain to your domain are internal messages and will not get checked by the IMF (intelligent Message Filter) and thus won't get treated as spam at all.

IMF works on inbound mail and if you have no users sending mail from outside the organisation via your organisation's mail server, then you can add *@yourdomain.com to the sender filtering and watch thos spoofed spam messages disappear.

 

by: ShylokPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:08:58ID: 25375364

Now what if the internal domain is domain.local yet the exchange server handles mail for the domain.com .
Plus there's a whack of remote sites connecting back over VPN. Will this affect any of them?  And a number of users on POP3. Why I'm not sure why but I just started here.  

I'm trying to replicate that environment now actually and a little bit stuck at how to get the @mydomain.com address appearing in AD new user creation.  See http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Server_Software/File_Servers/Active_Directory/Q_24745811.html?cid=1575#a25375101

If you've got any input on that.  

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:19:35ID: 25375389

Not a problem for domain.local / domain.com.

VPN users will send directly to the server and not via SMTP.

POP3 users will have a problem, so you would have to add your users individually except those that use POP3.

The alternative to the VPN / POP3 users is to setup HTTPs over RPC which gives the users Outlook as if they were sitting in the office and sends mail over HTTPS, so again, bypassing the message filtering.

Comment posted in the other question.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:20:47ID: 25375392

Here is a link on how to setup RPC over HTTPS from Mestha - EE's leading Exchange Expert:

http://www.amset.info/exchange/rpc-http.asp

 

by: ShylokPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:32:41ID: 25375424

Thanks alan will review.  If I follow you. the RPC over HTTPs would be for the pop3 users now and that way i could enable the recipient filtering for the whole domain.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:35:18ID: 25375431

Yes - setup HTTPS over RPC for the POP3 users (and VPN if you want to) and then you can setup sender filtering for the entire domain and problem solved.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:36:39ID: 25375435

HTTPS over RPC is not essential for the VPN users - it just means they don't have to connect via the VPN to get their mail, only if they need file access.

 

by: ShylokPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:37:06ID: 25375437

any issues with users being on poor connections. ie dialup etc?

 

by: ShylokPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:38:15ID: 25375440

currently roaming profiles are in play.  So I presume VPN will be required.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:39:04ID: 25375442

Dialup users will be slower than ones using Broadband, but it will work just the same as if they were doing it without HTTP over RPC.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:41:47ID: 25375449

Roaming profles over VPN?

Depends on the speed, but if there is a VPN involved, then no need for HTTPS over RPC.

 

by: ShylokPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:43:30ID: 25375454

Excellent. thanks for that. Once I get some input on Maia itself and close this thread I'll be sure to award you full points for your input also.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-19 at 17:49:47ID: 25375474

Not sure if you will get other Experts popping up now without requesting attention at the top as there are lots of posts in this question already and most Experts may ignore it because of the many posts.

 

by: ShylokPosted on 2009-09-19 at 18:05:07ID: 25375517

Yea mods closed my request for attention since they felt the thread was active and you were helping me lol.  I have to wait until tuesday to request attention.  I'll award you the points when I close. Thank you much!

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-19 at 18:11:22ID: 25375540

No problems - hope your next call for experts is successful.  Appreciate the offer of the points.  If someone else helps you with the Maia Mailguard - be sure to share the points accordingly - especially as you have said that you will award me the points - another Expert may read that and say "There is nothing in it for me - so I won't bother answering".

 

by: ShylokPosted on 2009-09-19 at 18:23:49ID: 25375571

Gotcha. No I think I can award 500x4 so I can definitely award everyone. And will. Cheers.

 

by: alanhardistyPosted on 2009-09-20 at 00:11:50ID: 25376164

You can split the 500 points up between Experts and if you award an A grade - whatever you split, gets multiplied by 4.

 

by: ShylokPosted on 2009-10-02 at 04:04:44ID: 31630998

Still would like some input on Maia itself. Will open another question.

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