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Shared Folder will not allow access on workgroup

Asked by: Gawan

Greetings,

I am on a workgroup. I have 8 office computers. 1 is Vista. 1 is XP Home, and 6 are XP Pro. I am using share permissions. I have read for a week searching the net to find the answer as to why the Vista PC, my 2nd XP Pro PC but not the other PCs cannot access the share folder on my Pseudo Server PC (Computer 1 w/XP Pro). I have 8 user accounts and passwords on Computer 1. I have matched a different account name on Computer 1.
Ex: Computer 1 is (Admin) and Computer 2 is (NY). Computer 1 has account Admin and Ny with passwords. I have set permissions in every possible combination so that there is full control, and still no access to the share folder. If I switch to simple file share, all is well. The Vista computer works with Shared Folder Permissions, my 2nd XP Pro PC that's on a switch with the Computer 1, works with Shared Folder Permissions, but not the others. I have tried everything and the only thing that I think it can be is a registry problem. I can see the Shared Folder on other PCs, but when I try to access the folder it states I do not have permission. All firewalls are turned off. I can get a nice ping, but no access to the share folder.
I do not want to use simple file share. Most of what I have read seems straight forward but reading about the other similar problems with file share it still comes back to the registry. I am open to suggestions.

Sid

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2007-09-13 at 16:25:58ID22827820
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by: grahamnonweilerPosted on 2007-09-13 at 16:51:50ID: 19887932

First off XP Home does not work well with anything other than simple file sharing - so you will always have problems getting the XP Home PC to access the share resource.

Despite that you must ensure that all of the PC's are in the same workgroup (all have the same workgroup name) - then power down all the PC's - bring up the PC that that you are using as a server first so that it can assume the role of "master browser". Then bring each of the other PC's up one by one - checking that you can access the sharefolders after you boot.

Instead of using the the machine name, try using the ip address of the server PC to access the sharefolder.

Finally, remember that XP Pro has a limit of 10 connections for shares.

 

by: GawanPosted on 2007-09-13 at 18:34:41ID: 19888437

grahamnonweiler:

Thank you. I have tried everything (I thought) but I have not shut down all computers. My main focus is: keep the 8 computers on the workgroup not a domain; and not use simple file share. I will upgrade the home xp if I can get the XP Pro PC to access the share folder on XP Pro Server. I have followed to the letter on sharing a folder. I have used permissions with full control and still no success. But when I have "everyone" in the permissions I can access the folder. So then I add computer 2 with full control and remove "everyone" then it is no access to the shared folder. If I click on simple file share it works just fine.

Question: Server/Computer 1 has 2 user IDs "Computer 1" and "Computer 2". Is this the correct way to use a shared folder? Computer 1 must have ALL the user IDs of the other computers?

Many thanks in advance. Sid

 

by: grahamnonweilerPosted on 2007-09-14 at 05:56:50ID: 19890956

Lets start over here, and becuase you are not really working in a true "client/server" environment I will stop using those terms and try a more simplistic approach. Once you have got everything working then you can take it up a step.

First I will describe the environment.

You have 8 computers.
One of these will offer access to the other 7 for sharing files.

Lets use simple names for each PC:

computerOne - this is "master" PC on which you have files you wish to share.

computerTwo - through - computerEight are "slaves" to the "master".

Now lets deal computerOne.

Delete all user accounts created using the "Control Panel/Users" option except the main account.
This user account should have administrative rights.
For the purposes of this example I will refer to it later as "UserComputerOne"

You should now have ONLY one account showing in the "Control Panel/Users" home page, guest account should be off.

Now we switch off simple file sharing - in "Folders Options/View/" untick 'Use simple file sharing'

Next remove any sharing you had set up on folders before, so we have a completely clean state to begin setting up new shares.

Once you have completed this stage, leave computerOne alone - we will now set-up the "slaves":

On each of the "slaves" you need to have user accounts with unique "username" and "passwords".

Again to keep things simple in this example, we will use:

computerTwo - username: slave2 password: xyzS22
computerThree - username: slave3 password: xyzS33
computerFour - username: slave4 password: xyzS44
computerFive - username: slave5 password: xyzS55
computerSix - username: slave6 password: xyzS66
computerSeven - username: slave7 password: xyzS77 (make this the XP Home machine)

Once you have done this step (obviously you can change the usernames and passwords to something of your own choosing but keep a note of them) we will now go back to the "master" computerOne and start setting up the sharing.

Back at computerOne, open "Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Computer Management"

Now, click and expand "Local Users and Groups" and then click on "Users".

Here you should find a list containing "Administrator", "Guest", "Help Assistant" and your created user account - perhaps you will also find one more account created by Microsoft.

Now we need to add the user accounts for the remote slaves that are going to access files on this computerOne.

Right click in the area where the users are listed and click "New User".

In the window that opens enter the details for the first "slave"

Username: slave2
 
Full Name: whatever you want

Description: Network pc computerTwo

Password: xyzS22

Confirm Password:

The untick 'User must change password at next logon'  and tick 'User cannot change password' and tick 'Password never expires'

Then click "Create".

Repeat the above process for rest of your users, i.e. 'slave3' through 'slave7'

When finished you will see your new users listed.

Now in the left panel click "Groups", and the right click "Power Users" and select "Add to Group".

In the window that opens, enter the names of your 7 slave users seperated by a semi colon, then click Check Names. Your usernames will be validated and then you can click "Ok". Now you wil see a list of all your slave users, click "Apply" and then "OK".

Close Computer Management, and close Administrative Tools.

Now we will set up the sharing.

Navigate using My Compter to the level above the folder you wish to share. Find the folder for sharing and right click.

Select "Sharing and Security" --> "Sharing"

Tick "Share this folder" then click "Permissions".

Select "Everyone" then click "Remove"

Click "Add" and then enter "Power Users" and click Check Names - the validation is perormed and the correction displayed - click "OK"

Now tick the boxes Full Control -  Allow, Change - Allow

Click "Apply", Click "OK" - you will now see "Power Users" in the Sharing list.


Now move to the "Security" tab along the top.

Click "Add" - and then enter "Power Users" and click Check Names (just as before) - click "OK"

Now in the Permissions window tick the boxes to Allow - Full Control, Modifiy,  Write.

Click "Apply", Click "Ok".

At this point you have completed the set up of your file sharing.

Move to computerTwo, log in as username "slave2" with the password you have set up for that user.

Once logged in, open My Computer, in the address bar type \\ip-number-of-master\ and click "Go"

After a second or two you will see the contents of your "master" - right clicking on the folder you want to use as the network drive, select "Map Network Drive" and click "OK"

Finished, you have shared folders.

Repeat the above steps for the other computers.

Now to only allow some users to access some folders and not others, you can use the "usernames" in the "sharing - permissions" and "security permissions" instead of the whole group "Power Users".

The principal and steps are basically the same as listed here.

Good Luck.

 

by: GawanPosted on 2007-09-14 at 15:41:56ID: 19895589

grahamnonweiler:

Thank you very much. I have success. Your detailed explanation is very much appreciated. It worked!

Sincerely,
Sid

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