Question

Ubuntu Firefox renders websites not the same as in Windows XP Firefox and not properly

Asked by: rhandalthor

Several websites I work on for clients including my own website don't display properly under Firefox 3.0.13 in Ubuntu but are rendered properly in Firefox 3.0 and 3.5 under Windows XP. I have MS fonts installed under Ubuntu. But somehow the fonts don't look the same and the input box in FF under Ubuntu is rendered larger than in FF WIN XP.
Is there a way I can fix this by changing the CSS or HTML or is there a way to make Ubuntu Linux force FF to display the fonts and input box properly?
I have attached a screenshot of the menu display in FF Ubuntu and FF Win XP. The website is http://tiny.cc/JQo2o

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2009-08-18 at 07:25:00ID24661507
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Answers

 

by: s8webPosted on 2009-08-18 at 09:32:16ID: 25125001

In your stylesheet located at  /templates/ja_ruby/css/template.css in .inputbox (line 130){}

try...

.inputbox
{
width:156px;
}

and see what happens.

 

by: rhandalthorPosted on 2009-08-18 at 10:12:54ID: 25125365

Better like that, yes.Thanks for that S8web.  But it still doesn't explain the cause of the difference. And... the contact us button on hover touches the search box in Ubuntu Firefox, but is fine in Windows Ubuntu.

 

by: s8webPosted on 2009-08-18 at 10:53:51ID: 25125765

Builds of software will vary between platform, Firefox for Win is a little different than Firefox for Linux. It seems like what you are experience is a difference in browser display defaults. The default width of an input box is prob. different between the two different versions of Firefox that you are testing in. Same goes for the font defaults. The author of the Joomla theme that you are using probably didn't test in Firefox for Ubuntu. A good start would to be to define the undefined elements that aren't displaying properly between browsers.

I don't see where the menu css is located, are you replacing the font with a javascript solution like cufon? Check the a and a:hover on the menu items, you will most likely find your issue there.

 

by: rhandalthorPosted on 2009-08-19 at 02:09:28ID: 25130717

The default width of an input box is prob. different between the two different versions of Firefox that you are testing in. Same goes for the font defaults.

How can a designer deal with two FF displays using the same version of Firefox?

I don't see where the menu css is located, are you replacing the font with a javascript solution like cufon?

There is a ja_css_menu.css and a blue_light.css  active besides the template.css


#ja-mainnav li a {/*blue_light.css (line 57) */
color:#69A5BC;
}
#ja-cssmenu li a {/*ja.cssmenu.css (line 80) */
color:#777777;font-size:110%;text-decoration:none;text-transform:uppercase;
}

                                              
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by: rhandalthorPosted on 2009-08-19 at 02:13:26ID: 25130751

Here is the ja_cssmenu.css


#ja-cssmenu {
	margin: 0; /* all lists */
	padding: 0;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu ul {
	margin: 0; /* all lists */
	padding: 0;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li {
	float: left;
	display: block;
	padding: 0;
	margin: 0 5px 10px;
	background: none;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li ul {
	width: 16.4em;
	position: absolute; /* second-level lists */
	z-index: 99;
	left: -999em; /* using left instead of display to hide menus because display: none isn't read by screen readers */
	height: auto;
	w\idth: 15.9em;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li ul ul {
	margin: -2em 0 0 15em; /* third-and-above-level lists */
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li li {
	padding: 0 1em 0 0;
	margin: 0;
	width: 14.9em;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu ul a {
	width: 14.8em;
	w\idth: 10.8em;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li:hover ul ul, #ja-cssmenu li:hover ul ul ul,
#ja-cssmenu li.sfhover ul ul, #ja-cssmenu li.havechildsfhover ul ul, #ja-cssmenu li.havechild-activesfhover ul ul, #ja-cssmenu li.activesfhover ul ul,
#ja-cssmenu li.sfhover ul ul ul, #ja-cssmenu li.havechildsfhover ul ul ul, #ja-cssmenu li.havechild-activesfhover ul ul ul, #ja-cssmenu li.activesfhover ul ul ul {
	left: -999em;
}
 
/* This "unhides" the sub-menus (left: -999em is what hides them) */
#ja-cssmenu li:hover ul, #ja-cssmenu li li:hover ul, #ja-cssmenu li li li:hover ul,
#ja-cssmenu li.sfhover ul, #ja-cssmenu li.havechildsfhover ul, #ja-cssmenu li.havechild-activesfhover ul, #ja-cssmenu li.activesfhover ul,
#ja-cssmenu li li.sfhover ul, #ja-cssmenu li li.havesubchildsfhover ul, #ja-cssmenu li li.havesubchild-activesfhover ul, #ja-cssmenu li li.activesfhover ul,
#ja-cssmenu li li li.sfhover ul, #ja-cssmenu li li li.havesubchildsfhover ul, #ja-cssmenu li li li.havesubchild-activesfhover ul, #ja-cssmenu li li li.activesfhover ul {
	left: auto;
}
 
/* STYLING THE MENU
-----------------------------------*/
/* 1st level */
#ja-cssmenu li a {
	display: block;
	text-decoration: none;
	font-size: 110%;
	color: #777777;
	padding: 3px 15px;
	text-transform: uppercase;
 
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li a:hover,
#ja-cssmenu li a:active,
#ja-cssmenu li a:focus {
	background: #000000;
	color: #EEEEEE;
	-moz-border-radius: 5px;
	-webkit-border-radius: 5px;	
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li.havechild:hover a,
#ja-cssmenu li.sfhover a,
#ja-cssmenu li.havechildsfhover a,
#ja-cssmenu li.havechild-activesfhover a {
	background: #000000;
	color: #EEEEEE;
	-moz-border-radius: 5px 5px 0 0;
	-webkit-border-radius: 5px 5px 0 0;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li.havechild a:hover,
#ja-cssmenu li.haverchild li a:hover {
	-moz-border-radius: 5px 5px 0 0;
	-webkit-border-radius: 5px 5px 0 0;	
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li.active {
	background: none;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li.active a {
	background: #000000;
	color: #EEEEEE;
	-moz-border-radius: 5px;
	-webkit-border-radius: 5px;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li a.active:hover,
#ja-cssmenu li a.active:active,
#ja-cssmenu li a.active:focus {
	color: #FFFFFF;
}
 
/* 2nd level and above */
#ja-cssmenu li ul {
	border: 1px solid #202020;
	background: url(../../images/trans-bg.png);
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li ul ul {
	border: 1px solid #202020;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li ul li {
	border-bottom: 1px solid #202020;
	border-right: none;
	background: none;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li ul a {
	border-right: none;
	margin: 0;
	padding: 5px 10px;
	background: none !important;
	text-transform: none;
	font-weight: normal;
	font-size: 100%;
	white-space: nowrap;
	color: #777777 !important;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li.havesubchild,
#ja-cssmenu li.havesubchild-active {
}
 
#ja-cssmenu li ul a:hover,
#ja-cssmenu li ul a:active,
#ja-cssmenu li ul a:focus,
#ja-cssmenu ul li:hover,
#ja-cssmenu ul li.sfhover,
#ja-cssmenu ul li.havesubchildsfhover,
#ja-cssmenu ul li.havesubchild-activesfhover,
#ja-cssmenu ul ul li:hover,
#ja-cssmenu ul ul li:hover a,
#ja-cssmenu ul ul li.sfhover,
#ja-cssmenu ul ul li.havesubchildsfhover,
#ja-cssmenu ul ul li.havesubchild-activesfhover {
	background: #7786A2;
	color: #FFFFFF !important;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu ul li.sfhover a,
#ja-cssmenu ul li.havesubchildsfhover a,
#ja-cssmenu ul li.havesubchild-activesfhover a,
#ja-cssmenu ul ul li:hover a,
#ja-cssmenu ul ul li.sfhover a,
#ja-cssmenu ul ul li.havesubchildsfhover a,
#ja-cssmenu ul ul li.havesubchild-activesfhover a{
	color: #FFFFFF !important;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu ul li a.active {
	background: none !important;
	color: #FFFFFF !important;
	font-weight: bold !important;
}
 
#ja-cssmenu ul li a.active:hover,
#ja-cssmenu ul li a.active:active,
#ja-cssmenu ul li a.active:focus {
	color: #FFFFFF !important;
}

                                              
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by: s8webPosted on 2009-08-19 at 03:35:35ID: 25131148

"How can a designer deal with two FF displays using the same version of Firefox?"

Unless you have a developer working with you, you have to be the developer sometimes too. It's worth noting that although I think Linux (Ubuntu included) is super awesome, they have a slim market share. And of those users, many use konqueror as their browser. If a slightly screwy hover on a button is your only problem left, relax you're doing good.

The way I would approach your last display hiccup would be to comment out (turn off) css declarations in your stylesheet one by one until you see a change in the affected area.  This is how I pinpoint most css issues that I can't find otherwise. Start with anything :hover or :focus since that is what we're directly dealing with. A quick and easy fix may be to reduce the font size on the menu items just a hair if the overlap isn't too significant. Maybe make it 108% instead of 110%. You could try that just as a practice in troubleshooting.

Can you show an updated screenshot of what it looks like when you hover over contact us in Ubuntu Firefox? I don't have access to a Linux box at the moment.



 

by: rhandalthorPosted on 2009-08-19 at 04:05:18ID: 25131316

Thanks for your great input. Just a little swamped at the moment. When I am I tend to want to solve issues too fast and loose focus. I will wrap up a few other things and will get back to this a little later today or tomorrow morning. Linux FF users can wait for a few hours.. Small part of the browser market like you rightfully said. When I post back again with results I will add the screenshot as well.

 

by: rhandalthorPosted on 2009-08-28 at 05:17:54ID: 25206720

Will close the question add fix this later. Thanks a lot again for your input!

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